• Omega
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    321 month ago

    Bernie has the greatest leverage in a potential third party, though with the system we have I think it’ll just lead to the left losing again because of a voter split.

    Assuming the elections will be fair with trump around, he effectively bypassed court already, he can adjust procedures to solidify his successor

    • Match!!
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      231 month ago

      he or AOC could announce their third party run now and demand the democratic left get behind them in advance

    • srasmus
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      171 month ago

      I’ve long wondered why the populist democrats haven’t been pushing harder for ranked choice voting options, or proportional representation, or any other voting system than what we have. I’m no election expert, so I’m sure there’s a reason, but it’s disheartening to be trapped between two parties.

      • @ObtuseDoorFrame@lemm.ee
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        241 month ago

        The Democrats in charge benefit from the status quo. It’s that simple. They would prefer to let Republicans win elections if the only other option is letting a pro worker candidate win.

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          91 month ago

          I try not to be terribly pessimistic. But a part of me knows you’re right.

        • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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          i say they benefit from Rs winning, because they get to grift as much as the gop, without getting the blame of the disastrous policies the gop enacts every election cycle. and when it comes time for Ds to get elected, they benefit/grift even more. THE CULTURE WAR BS is just to distract republicans and to an extent some dem voters from them noticing orchestrating this behind the scenes as a uniparty, by extension also to protect thier billionaire donors. sanders, aoc, MAYBE walz? are totally outsiders and are not privelieged to the grift of the dnc and gop.

          Even whitmer recently have been seen shilling for trump, lowkey wise.(she entertained him twice to work with him)

          it also kinda make sense why a lot of dems are also DINOS too.

      • @CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee
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        151 month ago

        Because they’ll lose power too. I live in blue Oregon and it was on the ballot in November, but both parties came out against it with nonsense about how popular candidates will lose, your votes will be stolen, etc, etc and it was resoundly defeated. All their rhetoric about helping the working class are blatant lies they tell you to get elected which is why we’ve been on a steady downward trend as a country for decades regardless of which of these “two” sides hold office.

    • @crusa187@lemmy.ml
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      91 month ago

      The outcome would be no worse than the last election, so why not go for it anyway?

      Bernie is the best positioned to get serious traction in a 3rd party in relatively short order. It’s one of my greatest wishes that he utilize the influence he has now to do just that, because the Dems are absolutely a lost cause and they will never provide a way out of fascism.

      • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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        41 month ago

        unfortunately hes like 80+years old right now, so are people willing to vote for someone that old.