• MochiGoesMeow
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    562 days ago

    Disagree. The Democrats dont know who they are anymore. Pelosi and the old Democrats have got to go.

    AOC should just make a new party.

    • @nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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      122 days ago

      You’re not really disagreeing. AOC is perceived as the face of the democratic party and it’s true. She’s at least offering consistent resistance while the feckless leadership of the party does nothing but line their pockets and ensure 100 percent unconditional support of Israel to the determient of all else.

      I don’t even disagree with your conclusions necessary, if it’s impossible to dislodge Pelosi and Schumer. But building a party from scratch is really fucking hard. Hijacking one might be easier.

    • They’re going to stay there making bank off of insider trading until they’re so ancient someone accidentally walks through and disperses the dust cloud known as Pelosi, and they finally decide they have enough money to reach supply-side Jesus.

      • @fishy@lemmy.today
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        102 days ago

        Just insider trading? Those super pacs are the fucking Democrats and Republicans at this point. Greed itself is our new overlord, business ethics are dead and rotting.

        • Those super pacs are the fucking Democrats and Republicans at this point

          they always have been. people have been pointing out how dems and republicans are two arms of the business party for a hundred years

      • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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        52 days ago

        You’re right. We need to get real. Those who support Democrats are just throwing their votes away. At this point, the Democratic Party has proven itself utterly incapable of winning a national election. Voting for Democrats is throwing your vote away. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for a Republican. We need to focus on real political parties like the Working Families Party that actually have a vision that they’re trying to fight for. Democrats don’t believe in anything. Democrats don’t even care about winning elections. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for MAGA. Centrists may not like voting for a progressive candidate, but they need to get over themselves. If centrists want to vote for Democrats, they’re choosing Fascism over Democracy.

        • Maeve
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          32 days ago

          At this juncture, a complete reboot seems necessary. The Constitution is old and more cumbersome than reasonable. We can do better.

      • MochiGoesMeow
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        62 days ago

        Potentially with local elections first. Build it up from the ground up.

        Not like the Green Party and Jill Stein’s goofy ass.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      42 days ago

      “MAKE A NEW PARTY!11111!!1”

      That’s not how America works. Only Democrats and Republicans can actually get elected at the level AOC plays at, because the electoral college only recognizes Democrats and Republicans.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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        62 days ago

        The Whigs are still on the ballot then, right? Since no new parties are ever made, and third parties can never win, it’s still Democratic-Republicans vs the Whigs in 2025, clearly.

            • Maeve
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              32 days ago

              Thank you. A little mirth where we can find it is mandatory!

              • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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                32 days ago

                If I can’t laugh about something maddening, I’ll go even crazier. I already have 4 mental health issues, I don’t need to add more. My plate is full and I’m low on spoons.

                • Maeve
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                  32 days ago

                  I hear you, friend. I daresay too many share the experience. I’ve certainly been there, before, and I am in full accord. Make merry where we can, it lightens the load for a moment. Wishing you the best.