I’m not very active on Mastodon, but saw this post - browsing the bluesky hashtag for a bit afterwards did not really give me much info. I can definitely imagine enshittification happening there, but what is causing the current drama in particular?

    • @toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world
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      44 days ago

      i just still don’t get it. like, twitter was a 2012 thing, back when text messages were a thing with limitations. now, the only limitation you have is texting between an apple and an android. why the fuck is twitter even still a thing - if not for the fact that most people can’t take a thought longer than 140 fucking characters?

        • @toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world
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          104 days ago

          twitter was founded as an app that allowed you to basically broadcast a text message. back then, sms messaging only allowed for 140 characters max per message. that’s why twitter became so big - it was basically a great way to shout headlines out to everyone who wanted to hear you. this was back in the days where the internet was still becoming a viable commercial thing and people were still mostly using tvs/cds/landlines.

          now, texting is pretty much indistinguishable from emailing, and everybody’s phones are fully on the web. the only thing imo that’s still keeping tweets around is that people don’t want to consider options that provide for a reason they might have to read more.

          • missingno
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            274 days ago

            The broadcast part is what matters, not the character limit. A normal SMS message has just one recipient, maybe a few more for a group MMS, but a Tweet goes out to the world wide web. Although Twitter was designed such that it could be used via SMS, that never defined the purpose of the platform, and changes to the SMS protocol do not obsolete Twitter’s use case.

          • @Lumidaub@feddit.org
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            144 days ago

            I am still having serious trouble following. Is your problem the fact that there’s a character limit?

            • @toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world
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              74 days ago

              twitter is an outdated phone app that was built for SMS back when text messages had a limit. it should have had a predictable lifespan, but now it’s become a fake-ai-assisted culture war battleground that’s run by the world’s biggest idiot and oligarch.

              i’m having trouble following what the fuck you’re having “serious” trouble following. and i’m starting to think you aren’t asking this question in good faith.

              • The Octonaut
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                Twitter definitely was not any attempt to emulate the function of SMS.

                I can’t tell if you don’t know what SMS is for, or what Twitter was for.

                • @toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world
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                  44 days ago

                  where am i wrong? twitter - as i understand - started as a phone-based application which had a 140-character limitation. where did that limit come from?

                  • AwesomeLowlander
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                    174 days ago

                    started as a phone-based application

                    It did not. It took 4 years before they launched an official mobile app. The char limit was solely a marketing ploy.

                  • Scott
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                    74 days ago

                    The limit was there because in its early incarnation it allowed post-submission via SMS. SMS already had the 140-character limit for other technical reasons due to the GSM networks.

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            Twitter was not founded as a mobile app. Twitter was (officially) desktop-only for the 1st 4 years of its existence. Calling it a SMS-replacement app is ludicrous, since it mainly existed on PC for the first few years. I personally think the concept is dumb, but it became famous because it forced people to keep their messages short and interesting (aka clickbait?), not because it replaced SMSes.

          • @tauren@lemm.ee
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            With a 140 characters limit, silly and meaningless rants like yours cannot exist. That’s a win!