Its actually quite simple. Fascism is not a bug of capitalism, but a feature. If theres an economic crisis capitalism tends to swing against marginalised groups in order to stop the working class from revolting against their true oppressors. If you finally want to defeat fascism you have to defeat capitalism.
cause all non capitalist, especially countries have been the best countries in the world to live in, with best freedom indexes, most civil rights, happiest people and no mass murders, tortures, deaths rapes etc at all.
Just dont look at any real facts or history. Only consume propaganda from authoritarians.
In the early 1900s the workers of the world were beginning to build the framework for the democratic collectivization of resources and labour. Elites considered this such a severe threat that they were organizing their own conferences on how to deal with it. This was stopped in most countries with one of two methods: concessions (like The New Deal) or fascism. Welfare or fear-mongering austerity politics.
To put this another way: some capitalists conspired to promote and ultimately install fascist authoritarians to fight socialism because it was in their class interests to do so. The various banana republics and other economic colonies of imperialist nations? Installed by capitalists. The forever wars that no one even wants? Believe it or not, also capitalists. These are not the moves made by freedom-loving people lol.
So I guess I should ask you: where are you consuming your propaganda from?
You do know, that communism and authoritarianism are two completely different things? Communism by itself is neither authoriatarian, or democratic. A communist world aims at dissolving all borders to achieve global equality without any form of higher governance. This of course is something thats quite unlikely to ever happen. A totalitarian regieme is directly contradictary to the pure idea of communism, which is that everyone should have the freedom to support (or not support) society. Any form of violence (no matter what type of violence) to force people into a set system is therefore contradictory to these ideas. Just because we didnt see very good examples of communism (maybe cuba, but I dont know that much about it, so I cant really judge) this doesnt mean, that communism itself is an inherently dysunctional and bad system.
Also, we have seen much more violence being emitted from capitalistic states, even if they claim to care about human rights. Every year the EU pays quite a significant amount of money to Lybia, so that their coast guard stops refugees crossing the mediterranian sea, causing hundreds of deaths and trapping those who get “rescued” by the coast guard in a subhuman system, where rape and torture are normalised.
This does not mean to invalidate the harm done by self proclaimed communist regiemes, but to show that shitty practices are done by all kinds of different people.
If it fails every single fucking time it is not a working system.
If capitalism leads to bad wages and terrible house prices, communism leads to mass murder.
We have perfectly fine working hybrids, that are proven but seems like commies need their mass murder mix.
Capitalism in crisis leads to right wing populist fascism and it is the liberals via the ratchet effect that give rise to authoritarian control for the capitalist class. Just wait. The liberals are too busy making investments in AI to bother with our silly rights. And you’ll see Trump will win a third term if he lives long enough. I mean, if you have framework, historical knowledge and you’ve paid attention long enough, you see the same reoccurring patterns. America is an imperialist nation and fascists are the useful idiots of empire. You know, we’ll see how this goes. Eventually, you know, it’ll get real enough for you to wake up and smell the coffee. If you’re comfortable, you won’t probably see it from… the tankies point of view. Oh, also. The United States supported Hitler during World War II. Tell me I’m wrong.
https://ohdbks.overdrive.com/ohdbks-clermont/content/media/3778967Hitlers American friends
It’s because they’ve written off the populists as worthless and instead focus on the PMC liberals who are prioritizing DEI over class. Liberals see themselves as being closer to the capitalists than the filthy poors.
The truth: populists are way easier to convert than liberals because their class interests are the same as yours. They’ve been told lefties have dumb priorities but if you come in saying “jobs and families matter more than bathroom drama” they’re going to give you a chance.
I wonder why extremists hate liberals so much. They all talk of liberals with such disdain.
Its actually quite simple. Fascism is not a bug of capitalism, but a feature. If theres an economic crisis capitalism tends to swing against marginalised groups in order to stop the working class from revolting against their true oppressors. If you finally want to defeat fascism you have to defeat capitalism.
cause all non capitalist, especially countries have been the best countries in the world to live in, with best freedom indexes, most civil rights, happiest people and no mass murders, tortures, deaths rapes etc at all.
Just dont look at any real facts or history. Only consume propaganda from authoritarians.
In the early 1900s the workers of the world were beginning to build the framework for the democratic collectivization of resources and labour. Elites considered this such a severe threat that they were organizing their own conferences on how to deal with it. This was stopped in most countries with one of two methods: concessions (like The New Deal) or fascism. Welfare or fear-mongering austerity politics.
To put this another way: some capitalists conspired to promote and ultimately install fascist authoritarians to fight socialism because it was in their class interests to do so. The various banana republics and other economic colonies of imperialist nations? Installed by capitalists. The forever wars that no one even wants? Believe it or not, also capitalists. These are not the moves made by freedom-loving people lol.
So I guess I should ask you: where are you consuming your propaganda from?
okay commie mass genocide apoloigist.
lol this is the problem with liberals, they believe everyone else is reading propaganda except them.
You do know, that communism and authoritarianism are two completely different things? Communism by itself is neither authoriatarian, or democratic. A communist world aims at dissolving all borders to achieve global equality without any form of higher governance. This of course is something thats quite unlikely to ever happen. A totalitarian regieme is directly contradictary to the pure idea of communism, which is that everyone should have the freedom to support (or not support) society. Any form of violence (no matter what type of violence) to force people into a set system is therefore contradictory to these ideas. Just because we didnt see very good examples of communism (maybe cuba, but I dont know that much about it, so I cant really judge) this doesnt mean, that communism itself is an inherently dysunctional and bad system.
Also, we have seen much more violence being emitted from capitalistic states, even if they claim to care about human rights. Every year the EU pays quite a significant amount of money to Lybia, so that their coast guard stops refugees crossing the mediterranian sea, causing hundreds of deaths and trapping those who get “rescued” by the coast guard in a subhuman system, where rape and torture are normalised.
This does not mean to invalidate the harm done by self proclaimed communist regiemes, but to show that shitty practices are done by all kinds of different people.
If it fails every single fucking time it is not a working system. If capitalism leads to bad wages and terrible house prices, communism leads to mass murder.
We have perfectly fine working hybrids, that are proven but seems like commies need their mass murder mix.
The United States was literally founded on a capitalist genocide.
The US is the most capitalist and the greatest abject failure.
Do not confuse capitalism with commerce. Commerce improves lives; capitalism seeks to destroy them for personal gain.
Liberals are capitalists first and foremost. Profit over human rights every time.
Who isn’t profit over human rights every time?
Capitalism in crisis leads to right wing populist fascism and it is the liberals via the ratchet effect that give rise to authoritarian control for the capitalist class. Just wait. The liberals are too busy making investments in AI to bother with our silly rights. And you’ll see Trump will win a third term if he lives long enough. I mean, if you have framework, historical knowledge and you’ve paid attention long enough, you see the same reoccurring patterns. America is an imperialist nation and fascists are the useful idiots of empire. You know, we’ll see how this goes. Eventually, you know, it’ll get real enough for you to wake up and smell the coffee. If you’re comfortable, you won’t probably see it from… the tankies point of view. Oh, also. The United States supported Hitler during World War II. Tell me I’m wrong. https://ohdbks.overdrive.com/ohdbks-clermont/content/media/3778967Hitlers American friends
You’re absolutely right yet for some reason everyone here hates it.
That’s a long way to say “just read theory bro”
Thought-terminating cliche.
Lazy canned response.
Liberalism is the old establishment. They want an extreme alternative to that. So of cause they do that.
It’s because they’ve written off the populists as worthless and instead focus on the PMC liberals who are prioritizing DEI over class. Liberals see themselves as being closer to the capitalists than the filthy poors.
The truth: populists are way easier to convert than liberals because their class interests are the same as yours. They’ve been told lefties have dumb priorities but if you come in saying “jobs and families matter more than bathroom drama” they’re going to give you a chance.
Bathroom drama is a thing that the right wing populists made up out of thin air.
I don’t give a fuck who made it up, I want democratic control of the economy. Anything else is secondary to that.