It objectively is. Most people are put out of action by 1-2 whacks with a telescope baton. If you’ve ever felt one, you’ll know that your muscles basically go numb when you’re hit - it’s not just pain.
One of the major disadvantages with deploying tasers to untrained people (e.g. American cops), is that it causes them to think they can handle 1-on-1 confrontations and then panic when the taser fails (not unlikely). The safer way to deal with a single unarmed person is to overwhelm them with several people that force them to the ground with sheer volume of baton blows (to the legs/body), pepper spray, and body mass.
I think you’re missing the part where he’s hyped up on meth and adrenaline. I’ve seen people take multiple gunshots in that condition before going down.
I’ve seen people take multiple gunshots in that condition before going down.
Far be it from me to suggest that IT admins arent exposed to a whole lot of meth heads getting shot multiple times “before going down”. I didnt mean to impugn your obvious street cred. Whats your handle at work, does it have “ice” or “vanilla” in it? Its ‘vanilla killa’ isnt it. Because you like to add 2 tbsp of vanilla to your toll house cookies recipes instead of one. And you seem like a no walnuts kind of guy too.
How far off am I? I dont blame you at all, just 1 tbsp of vanilla makes me so angry, like I want to take out my gat and rain fire on some printers. (not that I’d actually do it because I’m a professional).
Because its a fact of life that poseurs get called out, mr early career sysadmin with stories of multiple (italtics are a direct quote from you) meth related shootings. Especially when people like yourself are using their contrived nonsense to implicitly support cop violence. You should stick to IT related samba comments-- your comments in this thread are not believable and I think you’ll find people are increasingly less willing to put up with thuggery and rightwing security fetishist nonsense.
This is not unique to people on meth, and just underscores why guns are a sub-optimal weapon in CQB. In reality, a person is reliably stopped dead in their tracks if hit in the thigh bone, hip, nervous system (spine/head) or heart. Any other hit, and they have anything from seconds to hours where they remain nearly fully functional.
Note that most of the body is not one of these critical zones. Hit someone with three lung-shots at 3m range, and they’ll still be able to reach and stab you. This is a large part of the debate regarding the “stopping power” of various types of ammunition (i.e. how much of the ammunitions momentum is imparted into the target, physically stopping them), and is a large part of the reason expanding ammunition is preferred for close-range exchanges (e.g. police).
A baton strike to the liver or knee will physically shut down part of your body. Just look at any professional fighter that receives a solid strike to either and see how they go down. This has nothing to do with meth or adrenaline, but is a physiological response to the strike.
So you think beating the shit out of someone is better than tasing them?
It objectively is. Most people are put out of action by 1-2 whacks with a telescope baton. If you’ve ever felt one, you’ll know that your muscles basically go numb when you’re hit - it’s not just pain.
One of the major disadvantages with deploying tasers to untrained people (e.g. American cops), is that it causes them to think they can handle 1-on-1 confrontations and then panic when the taser fails (not unlikely). The safer way to deal with a single unarmed person is to overwhelm them with several people that force them to the ground with sheer volume of baton blows (to the legs/body), pepper spray, and body mass.
I think you’re missing the part where he’s hyped up on meth and adrenaline. I’ve seen people take multiple gunshots in that condition before going down.
Sure you have. Your other comments claim you’re an IT admin.
Ah yes, my career shields me from all horrors on this earth
Far be it from me to suggest that IT admins arent exposed to a whole lot of meth heads getting shot multiple times “before going down”. I didnt mean to impugn your obvious street cred. Whats your handle at work, does it have “ice” or “vanilla” in it? Its ‘vanilla killa’ isnt it. Because you like to add 2 tbsp of vanilla to your toll house cookies recipes instead of one. And you seem like a no walnuts kind of guy too.
How far off am I? I dont blame you at all, just 1 tbsp of vanilla makes me so angry, like I want to take out my gat and rain fire on some printers. (not that I’d actually do it because I’m a professional).
Anyway, my apologies. Stay strong-- yo.
Why are you such an asshole?
Because its a fact of life that poseurs get called out, mr early career sysadmin with stories of multiple (italtics are a direct quote from you) meth related shootings. Especially when people like yourself are using their contrived nonsense to implicitly support cop violence. You should stick to IT related samba comments-- your comments in this thread are not believable and I think you’ll find people are increasingly less willing to put up with thuggery and rightwing security fetishist nonsense.
This is not unique to people on meth, and just underscores why guns are a sub-optimal weapon in CQB. In reality, a person is reliably stopped dead in their tracks if hit in the thigh bone, hip, nervous system (spine/head) or heart. Any other hit, and they have anything from seconds to hours where they remain nearly fully functional.
Note that most of the body is not one of these critical zones. Hit someone with three lung-shots at 3m range, and they’ll still be able to reach and stab you. This is a large part of the debate regarding the “stopping power” of various types of ammunition (i.e. how much of the ammunitions momentum is imparted into the target, physically stopping them), and is a large part of the reason expanding ammunition is preferred for close-range exchanges (e.g. police).
A baton strike to the liver or knee will physically shut down part of your body. Just look at any professional fighter that receives a solid strike to either and see how they go down. This has nothing to do with meth or adrenaline, but is a physiological response to the strike.
Let’s see: do we want to see Daddy all beat up and bloody for a few days while he recovers / detoxes in jail, or do we want a nice tidy closed casket?