I think how much hatred and revulsion I feel looking at this is the brilliance here.

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    285 days ago

    I think art depends a lot on context. It’s promoting something to you and asking you to respond to it, and how you respond to it depends a lot on who you are and what you think about.

    This image makes me think about ecological destruction and the emptiness of capitalism, but I don’t think every person who looks at it feels despair - it probably depends on whether they spend time on a website with a community called FuckCars or not lol. It leans into a mixture of surrealism and realism. It’s interesting how she’s leaning into realism to kinda draw out that sense of disgust and revulsion. Waterbed by her seems to lean more into her softer surrealism, because she’s not wanting us to feel the same kind of uncomfortable.

    Similar to the idea of “it’s just a typewritten letter,” I absolutely love Duchamp. I got to see his Fountain and one of his Wineracks on a tour of Europe. “It’s just a urinal.” But goddamn did I break down in tears. The Winerack was a lucky surprises (I saved a pesky in-law from causing an international incident there lol).

    It’s art because he took it out of context and told us to think about it. He said, “maybe everything is art or nothing is. What do you want to do about it?”

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      45 days ago

      I’m extremely interested about the nature of the potential international incident…

      And while Winerack is a great similarity to the typewritten letter, it feels not unlike modern day AI art plagiarism to me. He literally bought the thing in a shop and then displayed it with his name on it!

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        Extraordinarily wealthy spoiled fourteen year old being chaperoned walking around by yours truly and a similarly “prone to accidents” ex. Walking around bored with their head buried in their phone. Last minute shirt grab as they walked around the museum into an unroped off sculpture because it was a tiny modern art museum in Rome, not the kind of one that expects American teenagers.

        Ooof… I’m not team plagiarism though. Was it old? Was it attributed?

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          By AI plagarism I just mean that there is a similar level of effort and thought that goes into someone typing a prompt into an AI image generator and getting output that uses another artist’s work. Maybe more even. Buying a mass produced item, signing it and saying you made art is very much the “you made this? I made this” meme.