• @Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
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    17617 days ago

    Literally psyops instead of helping. The people who did this are the characters you see getting shot in the movies and don’t feel bad about it.

      • @Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
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        5117 days ago

        Housing, rehabilitating and educating homeless people costs the same or less than funding their persecution, prosecution and incarceration while solving the problem instead of perpetuating it

        • FuglyDuck
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          17 days ago

          and the business is the one deciding these things?

          Like. I get it.

          The way we treat homeless people sucks in this country.

          It shouldn’t be that way. But the business isn’t the one setting those policies here. That’s on LA and the CA governments. And while yes, some of the business interests are voicing opinions here… the barber shop and the landlords here aren’t big enough to have any pull. Many are just looking for ways to end it… and would fully support doing housing-first strategies and all that. (because they work.)

          • @PunnyName@lemmy.world
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            3317 days ago

            Businesses just bought the election for the fucking president. They can buy policy that helps humans.

            • FuglyDuck
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              You think every business wanted Trump?

              C’mon. That was a relatively few, large, businesses. Be realistic. The barber that’s looking at losing his business, the others in that building had to leave or close.

              The landlord, who can’t get tenants to move in.

              They probably weren’t trumpers anymore than you were, and I doubt very much they would resist an actual solution to the problems they’re facing.

              • @WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
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                317 days ago

                There are enough idiots complaining now in a variation of “I support Trump but I didn’t think the tariffs/deportations would hurt my business”

                • FuglyDuck
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                  317 days ago

                  Yes. Because an infinitesimally small number of business owners say so, all business owners must.

                  There’s over 4.2 million small businesses in CA alone.

                  Most of which are owned and operated by totally normal, not-awful people.

                  I can’t know their politics and neither can you.

                  What I can tell you is that cities across the country are fucking up the crisis and leaving everyone else involved in a lurch. The homeless people themselves are the most obvious and most needy, don’t get me wrong.

                  But the current situation is also impacting businesses, causing them to either move away or close as people stop shopping.

                  City and state governments are fucking it up. Not the fucking barber who probably is a member of that community just trying to earn a living. Not the others who had already left or closed and were also part of the community, probably.

                  • @WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
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                    517 days ago

                    Small-business owners are a major force behind the U.S. swing vote. Nearly a quarter are registered Democrats and 38% are Republicans, according to the National Small Business Association’s 2024 Politics of Small Business Survey

                    Small-business owners’ support for Trump was based, in large part, on opposition to the current regulatory regime.

                    In addition to promising a lighter regulatory touch, Trump campaigned on lowering taxes, which small business applauds.

                    source

                    Doesn’t sound like an infinitesimally small number of business owners.

                  • @aesthelete@lemmy.world
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                    Those blasting baby shark 24/7 as a “solution” to the homeless problem may or may not have voted for Trump, but in using legalistic cruelty to try to “solve” problems Trump and them are 100% in alignment.

        • @Vegasvator@lemmy.today
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          Costs the same? The price of a speaker and mp3 player on loop is a lot cheaper than rehabilitation and educating homeless people. What should the business be doing was the question. Not what should the government and society as a whole be doing.

      • @SirQuack@feddit.nl
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        2417 days ago

        They shouldn’t try to keep their businesses going?

        Try to keep their business going by bullying in the public space? That doesn’t seem like something a business should do in the first place.

        • @Vegasvator@lemmy.today
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          517 days ago

          7-11 does it in LA. LA metro does it. Lots of businesses and public agencies are doing it. It’s definitely something they should be doing for their business and public.

          • RuBisCO
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            816 days ago

            ‘Come on, babe. Lots of people are doing it. It’s ok. Totally not psychological torture or psyops. Just one more location. It’ll totally solve the problem. Come on, everyone’s doing it.’

            • @Vegasvator@lemmy.today
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              416 days ago

              It’s ok

              It is ok. Hearing annoying music that you can move away from is far from psychological torture. Would you consider being surrounded by drug use and by trash as psychological torture?

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                  They aren’t making the claim that they are being tortured. That would be absurd. It is also absurd to just sit in front of a speaker that is playing music and say you are being tortured instead of moving.

        • @Vegasvator@lemmy.today
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          517 days ago

          Not even close to a bad faith argument. How can they help homeless people when their business is failing and they are worried about their own financial situation?