• @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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    64 days ago

    I thought everyone hated her. I could have sworn that like a year ago online discussion was nothing but how terrible she is.

    • Part of it is the fact that there was an absolutely vicious smear campaign against her character when she first started speaking out. It did a lot to mark her as “cringe”, which made people dismiss her.

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        Then why was there not an effort to counter that smear campaign. We all saw it but did nothing except let it go on.

        It was things like that which has made me so pessimistic and hateful of that left as a whole. I see people today here on Lemmy so passionate and angry at trump. Yet also ineffective for the past decade.

        • @Forester@pawb.social
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          584 days ago

          Yeah, let me just spin up my bot farm paid for by me to counter the other bot farms by the corporate interests and mega donors

          • @Joeffect@lemmy.world
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            94 days ago

            You brilliant son of a bitch, that’s exactly what we need… An anti bot bot farm… Where users can download an app and join a pool of users to fight propaganda online… I have no idea how that is supposed to work… But yeah…

          • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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            34 days ago

            Whatever you need to tell yourself. You people will drive 8 hours to stand in the rain yelling just to go back home with no progress. You’ll come online every day and cry about trump. But actively engage people outside these echo chambers, that’s impossible something something bot farms.

            • @Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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              34 days ago

              Alright smart guy, what’s the plan then? Please enlighten us dumb and incompetent leftists with the work of pure genius you’re clearly keeping up your sleeve about how to counter the corporate media and their billions. We’re all so excited to hear it.

              • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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                Stop being dumb and incompetent. Whatever you’re doing now, do the fucking opposite because what you all have been doing is fucking terrible. It’s like asking Toronto Maple Leafs how to win the cup. Truth is, do the opposite of whatever you’ve been doing. To do that, you first have to admit there’s a problem otherwise there’s no need to change. Wouldn’t it be nice to see people who fail, change course before they hit rock bottom. Problem for us is rock bottom will be prison camps overseen by Dan Bongino.

                Stop telling each other “don’t wrestle with pigs it only blah blah blah”

                Stop telling each other to avoid social media.

                Create content.

                Upvote any content, don’t be a snob, support content.

                Don’t leave people hanging or turn on them the minute the right put out smear.

                At one point we were all over everything and then… We all pulled back.

                I shouldn’t open Facebook and find racist, sexist, homophobic garbage flooding the comments unchallenged. Push back. Troll the worst offenders. Flood the mild ones with truth and receipts. The right never lets a narrative die and neither should we.

                We need to keep the public eye on the chaos, cruelty, and corruption. We’ve already forgotten about Taco. That’s on us. If we don’t keep it fresh and visible, we lose. Period.

                There are a thousand places to improve. But no one admits there’s a problem. And if no one admits it, no one changes. And if no one changes we lose.

                Check it out.

                https://lemmy.world/comment/17420242

                If she was a Republican there would be no webpage online without their base using this to show how evil and murderous and blood thirsty the left is. The left will debate a bit on these posts and then go play helldiver for a few hours. The effort across political aisles is asymmetrical. It’s not just due to bots. It’s the average leftist being all talk

                There are people creating things but it all feels like when it gets to us, we drop the baton whereas the right > carry it all the way.

    • @Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
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      294 days ago

      when she was younger she was paraded by libs for green washing, the media either hated her or loved her.

      when thise libs realised she isn’t a grifter the mass media either ignored her or kept on hating her.

    • @LordPassionFruit@lemm.ee
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      184 days ago

      There’s always been very vocal criticisms of her from people who don’t agree with her (for whatever reason they may have). But since she first started her activism, over a decade ago, no one I personally know has had a negative view of her. The people who don’t like her are very vocal about it, but on the whole I’ve always assumed she’s well liked.

      I’ve personally been a fan of hers since I found out about her, and every time I hear about her doing something I basically always go “hell yeah”

      • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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        34 days ago

        Me too. But I always feel like people like here are abandon by us because if I go anywhere other then these left spaces, she gets crucified and there’s no defense