• @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    2911 days ago

    As much as I hate Elon, he’s not culpable for whatever his brother has or hasn’t done

    Elon is a known horndog and sex pest. I think it’s less “he’s responsible” and more “he’s just as mixed up in the Lolita Express gang as any of these assholes”.

    Incidentally, Gislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding. I don’t think that means Chelsea is a rapist. But I do think Bill is, and this kind of close relationship further illustrates the circle all these people ran in.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1011 days ago

      Sure, but that was about Elon’s brother. Surely if Elon was involved with Epstein there will be evidence; it’s not like he was shy about being photographed.

      This guilty by association stuff feels like an witch trial evidence, when there’s plenty of stuff to hang Elon with that he did himself.

    • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1011 days ago

      Unless you know something I don’t, Monica was consenting the entire time.

      And don’t say “he used his position of power to force her”. She said in multiple interviews that she enjoyed it and felt excited. The only time she started to feel negative feelings is whdn Linda Tripp got involved and betrayed her.

      These are Monicas own words. It wasn’t rape.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart
        link
        fedilink
        English
        511 days ago

        The differences in power between them was great enough that even if it wasn’t rape it was very unethical.

        • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          1011 days ago

          Oh, sure. No arguement from me there. I just hate it when people diminish what words mean.

          Unethical? Sure.

          It was also unethical when Jerry Seinfeld at age 37 dated a 17 year old during the height of Seinfeld.

          Also not rape. Nor illegal. Both of which I’ve heard various people claim.

          It also deletes words like “awful” and “predatory” from conversations. Despite being objectively true, I never hear people say those words about Clinton, or Seinfeld, or any of the other similar situations.

          And on a personal note, I don’t believe Micheal Jackson did anything wrong with kids. As in, I don’t think any events actually took place. Only three people were ever said to be victims. Two of them were later proven to be parents looking for a payday. And the third was Macully Culken. And he’s directly said over multiple decades, both as a kid, and later as an adult, that MJ never did anything wrong or inappropriate.

          So I think Micheal Jackson had to live his whole adult life being falsely accused of being a pedophile and a rapist when he never was.

    • @QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1
      edit-2
      11 days ago

      The thing is Bill does not seem to be a kiddie diddler. Aside from Monica Lewinsky and a Miss America contestant they tend to be later twenties to whatever his current age was. They affairs tended to be with women who were pretty and young whereas his alleged assault victims are all adults too.

      He’s vile but not a pedo

      • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        111 days ago

        The thing is Bill does not seem to be a kiddie diddler.

        How low is the bar that we’re at “sexual assault isn’t such a big deal if they’re over eighteen”.