• @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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      14 days ago

      I’m open if there is new evidence, so far I’m not seeing it.

      We have photographic evidence, clearly showing his face, of Luigi in the area wearing the same clothing as did in the shooting video.

      Then, on capture, they find the gun used in the shooting.

      So, yeah, he plugged the guy. Criminal liability is a different question. Murder? Manslaughter? Justifiable homicide? That’s where the court comes in.

      You don’t need a guilty verdict to say he killed the guy.

      • Amnesigenic
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        84 days ago

        No, you have the cops word that those things are true and nothing else

            • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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              13 days ago

              My tinfoil hat isn’t tight enough for me to buy the conspiracy theory narrative. You really have to stretch to say he’s being framed.

              We have video of him in the vicinity wearing the same clothing as the shooter.

              He was caught with the gun and a manifesto.

              He’s repeated those statements personally.

              https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/luigi-mangiones-alleged-diary-entries-released-new-court-filing-rcna211132

              "Instead of carrying out a bombing, prosecutors allege, Mangione wrote in an entry in October that someone should “wack the CEO at the annual parasitic bean-counter convention.”

              “It’s targeted, precise, and doesn’t risk innocents. Most importantly, the point is self-evident,” the diary entry reads, according to the filing. “The point is made in the news headline ‘Insurance CEO killed at annual investors conference.’”"

              It’s absolutely clear he’s the shooter. Denying that is rejecting reality.

              Now, if you want to get into if he was justified, that’s a different discussion. My expectation is they will get him on the murder charge due to the extensive proof of pre-meditation.

              The terrorism charge is bullshit though and everyone knows it. The public wasn’t terrorized by what he did, if anything a large number of people were cheering him.

            • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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              13 days ago

              You misunderstand… Nobody has to have personally seen him shoot somebody to say he shot somebody. This isn’t a court of law, we aren’t “proving” anything.

              If you think he’s a hero, you acknowledge he shot the guy. If he didn’t, there’s no need for the hero worship.

              If you think he’s a criminal, you ALSO acknowledge he shot the guy.

              Again, either way, there’s absolutely no question he shot the guy.

              You’re welcome to feel differently, the results of the trial will disappoint you.

                • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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                  2 days ago

                  LOL - The mod of “thepoliceproblem” is not pushing a pro cop agenda. Don’t blind yourself to obvious facts.

                  The cops didn’t catch Mangione, it took a random McDonalds employee to do that. They had no clue who he was until that call came in.