They are NOT resisting, these are innocent civilians… I don’t give a shit about Hamas I’m talking about women and children dying in Gaza. How is there disagreement on this basic acknowledgement of reality?
Israel is committing a genocide, as all settler colonial states eventually do, no disagreement there.
The disagreement is over whether Palestinians have a right to resist settler colonialism and forced displacement. International law and natural law says they do, it is obvious, but people who live in settler colonial states that were successful in eradicating the indigenous population won’t make that inconvenient admission.
No but these people are so dense that i have to spell it out like that so they understand the difference I’m drawing between Hamas/combatants/uprising vs. women and children living peacefully in their homes and not harming anyone on this planet but still getting bombs dropped on their heads. But still it’s on deaf ears.
Fluxion makes the distinction between Hamas and women/children. Surely women have contributed to the rebellion efforts. I’m not sure it’s so black and white like that. I wanted to point that out since they seemed misogynistic about it.
Revolt absolutely means that. But a revolt is only a revolt if there exists an overwhelming oppression that makes people want to resist.
And that is absolutely the case, starting in 1946 when Jewish people started dominating Palestinians. There have been hundreds of October 7ths since then. 57,000+ Palestinians have perished to date since 2025/10/7 due to Israel’s maximal racism and bloodlust.
Also, Palestine was not in peace. Hell, the West Bank of Israel wasn’t in peace. The only peace was felt by one side, which undermines the entire idea. Peace means no oppression, no war for both sides. That has never been true for Palestinians while Israel has occupied their land.
Hey here comes the comfortable westerner to tell everyone what they think is bad optics.
This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support. Hand-wrining about “terrorism” only serves defending the perpetrators while posing like you care about victims.
Sickening behavior really, but I’m used to it by now. American soldiers are terrorists, IDF are terrorists.
Without their support it would be a different one, maybe get better at reading or something
Without US support, Israel would be genociding… who, exactly? What ‘different’ genocide would it be, if not the genocide that’s been going on since 1948, long before US aid was a major factor?
it would be different because the conditions would be different, they would be needing to buy their own thousand pound bombs, protect their own shipping lanes and collect their own intelligence.
with US support every step of the way they are able to ignore pressure from the rest of the world and have been absolutely depraved as a result
can you elaborate? you have a double negative in there and it’s hard for me to tell what you’re trying to say. is this your attempt at sarcasm?
my position is that it’s harder to do a genocide if you’re not being given unlimited weapons and political and military support from the world hegemon. do you disagree?
It’s not about bad optics, you are literally doing what Israel is doing by equating Gaza civilians as “combatants” and thus making them targets. These people had nothing to do with Oct 7 I’m talking about little children and doctors and mothers and teachers and you’re on about this fucking freedom fighter uprising bullshit because you’re more concerned with justifying violence against Israel than caring about how many kids get bombed and starve to death in Gaza.
You are the one making excuses for the occupation by calling their victims terrorists. A ghetto uprising describes the conditions accurately. You are the one doing the work of Israel by pretending that they have ever discriminated between ‘combatants’ and everyone else.
I guess feigning moral superiority must be how you sleep at night after a long day of jorkin it to Ukraine war killcams or whatever it is you weirdos do for fun.
Not interested in your bullshit takes that would only incite more violence against the Gaza civilians by painting Oct 7 as a popular uprising.
Honestly think before you speak if you actually care about these people.
Learn the history of Israel’s illegal occupation and siege before demonizing the resistance
They are NOT resisting, these are innocent civilians… I don’t give a shit about Hamas I’m talking about women and children dying in Gaza. How is there disagreement on this basic acknowledgement of reality?
Israel is committing a genocide, as all settler colonial states eventually do, no disagreement there.
The disagreement is over whether Palestinians have a right to resist settler colonialism and forced displacement. International law and natural law says they do, it is obvious, but people who live in settler colonial states that were successful in eradicating the indigenous population won’t make that inconvenient admission.
So the Palestinian men can just die off I guess. According to you
No but these people are so dense that i have to spell it out like that so they understand the difference I’m drawing between Hamas/combatants/uprising vs. women and children living peacefully in their homes and not harming anyone on this planet but still getting bombs dropped on their heads. But still it’s on deaf ears.
Women can also revolt too, no?
does revolt mean crossing a border in force during a time of peace and then slaughtering over 1000 people?
Apartheid is not peace
Time of peace? there was no time of peace since 48
Fluxion makes the distinction between Hamas and women/children. Surely women have contributed to the rebellion efforts. I’m not sure it’s so black and white like that. I wanted to point that out since they seemed misogynistic about it.
Revolt absolutely means that. But a revolt is only a revolt if there exists an overwhelming oppression that makes people want to resist.
And that is absolutely the case, starting in 1946 when Jewish people started dominating Palestinians. There have been hundreds of October 7ths since then. 57,000+ Palestinians have perished to date since 2025/10/7 due to Israel’s maximal racism and bloodlust.
Also, Palestine was not in peace. Hell, the West Bank of Israel wasn’t in peace. The only peace was felt by one side, which undermines the entire idea. Peace means no oppression, no war for both sides. That has never been true for Palestinians while Israel has occupied their land.
the history starts before 1948.
which is it? It’s almost like you’re just another westerner defending a genocide via selective reading of history
It started by foreigner wanting to force a state on local people
Hey here comes the comfortable westerner to tell everyone what they think is bad optics.
This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support. Hand-wrining about “terrorism” only serves defending the perpetrators while posing like you care about victims.
Sickening behavior really, but I’m used to it by now. American soldiers are terrorists, IDF are terrorists.
I mean… No. This has been happening for 80+ fucking years and Israel would be doing it with or without US support.
They would certainly be trying, but it’s a lot harder to exterminate a captive population when you aren’t getting supplied a whole arsenal to do so.
Ok… So a bit different than “it could never happen”
This genocide could never happen without the American uniparty shitheads enabling it for decades.
I said:
Without their support it would be a different one, maybe get better at reading or something
Without US support, Israel would be genociding… who, exactly? What ‘different’ genocide would it be, if not the genocide that’s been going on since 1948, long before US aid was a major factor?
late to the party pugjesus
it would be different because the conditions would be different, they would be needing to buy their own thousand pound bombs, protect their own shipping lanes and collect their own intelligence.
with US support every step of the way they are able to ignore pressure from the rest of the world and have been absolutely depraved as a result
Yes, I’m sure that captive populations aren’t regularly exterminated without the backing of major MICs.
can you elaborate? you have a double negative in there and it’s hard for me to tell what you’re trying to say. is this your attempt at sarcasm?
my position is that it’s harder to do a genocide if you’re not being given unlimited weapons and political and military support from the world hegemon. do you disagree?
But at least we got to be complicit like republicans and centrist democrats want.
It’s not about bad optics, you are literally doing what Israel is doing by equating Gaza civilians as “combatants” and thus making them targets. These people had nothing to do with Oct 7 I’m talking about little children and doctors and mothers and teachers and you’re on about this fucking freedom fighter uprising bullshit because you’re more concerned with justifying violence against Israel than caring about how many kids get bombed and starve to death in Gaza.
Fuck that bullshit.
You are the one making excuses for the occupation by calling their victims terrorists. A ghetto uprising describes the conditions accurately. You are the one doing the work of Israel by pretending that they have ever discriminated between ‘combatants’ and everyone else.
I guess feigning moral superiority must be how you sleep at night after a long day of jorkin it to Ukraine war killcams or whatever it is you weirdos do for fun.
I see, we are on 2 different topics here.
Have fun justifying Oct 7. I’ll pass on that bullshit.
I’m talking about the genocide in Gaza today, where 50,000 who had nothing to do with Oct 7 or any sort of “uprising” whatsoever have been killed.
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