I get that reality sucks, but that doesn’t make your delusions correct :3c
edit: this is specifically about the US, hence the reference to the “liberal experiment” as it was once called. Yes, many other countries are not past the point of no return, but very few are not in grave danger.
I suggest you all to review your American history because things like this have happened in several occasions and to several degrees.
You should know that Tammany Hall was a thing, and so was the Business Plot, and the Kent State shootings and things like the Battle of Blair Mountain were more common than you would believe.
I understand that to young people, seeing what’s happening is scary, but democracy is a continuous battle that we tend to forget it exists but that we ought to fight as the alternative is always worse than anything you might imagine (based on the testimonials of survivors).
EDIT: I added few links with worth reading articles.
“Time is a wheel in constant motion always rolling us along. Who wants to look back on their years and wonder where those years have gone?” ― Lee Ann Womack
None of your examples are anywhere near an actual fascist takeover of the United States. This is certainly a battle that needs to be fought, but the way you made your point implies that this will all blow over like the other things you listed when really, there’s a good chance that this is it for American democracy (at least for a couple decades) and everyone in this needs to be aware of that.
You need to read up on the history of our liberal democratic system. Mexican American US citizens have been deported on mass before; violent instability has happened before, but not since the civil war has the legislature and judiciary been sidelined so hard by the executive. Not since then has our military been bent like this. We are seeing a transformation to our government beyond what happened in the New Deal era, where so many Rubicons are crossed that it’s doubtful we’ll have institutional stability within this century.
Old people like you, who grew up in an era where the empire was strong and internally stable, will never understand that your world is gone. You lack the creativity to comprehend that you were living in the unprecedented times; you were living in an era unrepresentative of what history is actually like.
People like you are who I am directing this post to. People who fail to understand why the circumstances are not comparable.
…you sound like an opinionated prick. If you need to salve your fear of the future, i hear drugs are fun. Beyond the obvious that “things will never be the same”, we can fight to improve what we have …just like we always do. Doomsaying the end of American democracy is silly. Grow up.
Again, you’re assuming that “the end of American democracy” = “it’s all over, we should give up” I long wrestled with the basic knowledge that the climate crisis would get worse for the rest of my life, but I eventually found a way to move past it:
I’d rather be prepared for that suffering so I can appreciate the joys I get along the way even more. There will be suffering, so I need to stock up on happiness whenever I can. I need to love myself so I can be more optimistic about my future without staking it all the world’s future. I have certainty there will be some level of deeply bad shit, but that’s more comforting now than disturbing. I’ve moved past wanting the world to be good; it just isn’t, and I can work with that.
This type of radical acceptance eases the dread without making you believe you don’t need to work to make things better. This way I can see the truth AND not feel hopeless and apathetic. It’s not easy to think this way, but it is totally doable.