Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’

Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.

Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”

The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.

  • deaf_fish
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    12 days ago

    So you’re saying it’s a cultural issue. Would you agree then that if easterners were to get culture that would allow them to justify colonization and murder, they would do the same things as westerners?

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      12 days ago

      It’s almost entirely cultural, of course, but I do think (I can’t prove it, it’s just travel and observation) that there are innate psychological differences to people of different tribes. The Congolese, the Austrian and the Nepali are different in a deeper way than nurture can account for, I think.

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        32 days ago

        Okay well if it’s cultural then culture can be changed. So if you’re an easterner, you need to be careful that you don’t end up like westerners. The ideological plague that hit westerners can get easterners as well.

        At the end there, It kind of seemed like you were heading back towards the race argument.

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          12 days ago

          What if it accounted for a little bit, the tiniest bit, of our psychological makeup? Would it be so terrible or dangerous of an idea? Not for clear minds and kind hearts, surely. I mean, everyone can swim and everyone can run but you know who’s gotta have at least the smallest of edges everything else being equal, right? That’s easy to accept, maybe this is just the next frontier, that we’re not just tabula rasa, but we have some innate tendencies towards/eases and difficulties regarding A or B the more we have of this or another tribe in us. It’s not something I will “die on a hill” for, simply because my evidence is all anecdotal, but 🤷.

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            32 days ago

            Between person to person. Yeah that’s fine. But comparing population to population is dangerous. Once you know, what do you do with that information?

            Historically, this line of thinking has never worked out very well. And as time goes on, who cares, we’ll all breed together anyway.

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              12 days ago

              I don’t take it personally that the further North I go, the more spaced out people are at bus stations and the further South I go, the louder people will talk, I guess.😅 But you’re right, we aren’t ready for it.

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                No, I don’t take it personally and I would agree with you if you’re asserting these differences are cultural. Unless you’re saying this is genetic?

                Edit: cultural or a result of societal pressure. I don’t mean to imply that particular cultures are bad.

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                  I was replying with the “what would you do with the information?” with that “I don’t take personally etc etc”! 😅 As in, I won’t take offence to ‘weird’ and seemingly antisocial behaviour, because I understand there’s some differences in personality between tribes (meaning whatever they’re giving me I need to reprocess accordingly). Perhaps, they have the tiniest bit of a genetic component (and are even harder/impossible to fully change, and hence why some of these differences and characteristics have been there seemingly forever). I mean, would that be that bad? Or does it really seem that far fetched?

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                    22 days ago

                    Ah, sorry, I misunderstood.

                    I mean if it’s a fun hobby of yours, go for it. But you know the history of this stuff as well as I do. It comes with a lot of baggage and people are not going to respond well to it. The group of people that will respond well to it, let’s just say, I don’t think you want to keep their company. Unless of course you are racist, in which case, you’d be fine.