When people point out the west is far from being the “good guys” shit like this is what they have in mind. USA and Europe supported israel and armed it to teeth making possible for the fascist israel government to conduct such attacks. If you don’t accept that our governments are as much rigged and evil as russia or china these useless war will never cease.
Why would you think people in the west would be upset about this?
If anything, the west has armed the shit out of Israel so they can do exactly this. Iran is a major Russian ally/puppet and an Islamic theocracy having nukes would be a very bad thing indeed. That’s not to say Israel hasn’t lied about why they’ve done this, because the footage of burning buildings in the middle of cities speak for themselves. They don’t look like no “nuclear research facilities” I’ve ever seen, so we’re clearly back to just bombing entire buildings to kill one person (if they were even there).
Iran knew full well what the response would be when they armed Hamas for the October attacks. It would mean Gaza being wiped off the map. Sure, those attacks hurt Israel, but they hurt Palestinians a whole lot more. Iran was just hoping that the resulting genocide stopped the west funding them.
If people in the west want this to stop (and lets be honest, any voting choices are pointless because all our major parties support war in the middle east), then we need to stop using oil and gas, so this whole area can go back to being a chunk of irrelevant desert so that all major players can take their fucking fingers out of it.
so we’re clearly back to just bombing entire buildings to kill one person (if they were even there).
To me it sound like after admitting a war crime you are still pretending to be one of the good guys.
Iran knew full well what the response would be when they armed Hamas for the October attacks. It would mean Gaza being wiped off the map.
And so does israel government. They are aware that attacking iran may result in a war where thousand civilians may die but they don’t give a shit about it.
then we need to stop using oil and gas, so this whole area can go back to being a chunk of irrelevant desert so that all major players can take their fucking fingers out of it.
The area house some of the oldest cultures in the world, read its history. We should indeed stop using oil and gas and that’s something “extremists” have preach for decades warning us against global warming and conflicts.
To me it sound like after admitting a war crime you are still pretending to be one of the good guys.
Don’t mistake me pointing out what they’re doing for support of that “tactic”. Iran does not have infinite resources to build new facilities. You blow those labs up, it’s gone. Blow it up in the day, so were those nuclear scientists. Israeli intel is pretty damn good, even if their military are inhumane savages. They know where the facilities are, and they can knock them out whenever they want.
There is exactly one regional threat to Israel’s existence, and it’s a nuclear armed Iran.
And they do indeed have some of the oldest cultures in the world, but it all got a hell of a lot worse when we found oil under it.
It’s not good at all. Israel forces have been murdering so many civilians that collateral damage has become part of their plans. What they are doing won’t result in any peace or safety, they are setting the ground for even more conflicts which is exactly what those in power want. They are pretty damn good at serving their fascist ruler.
It’s not good at all. Israel forces have been murdering so many civilians that collateral damage has become part of their plans.
So… you must know that the atrocities committed have nothing to do with the quality of their intel.
In other words, the comment makes 0 sense as a reply. I mean it’s a fine comment on its own, it’s just not at all a reply to what you quoted. I really only bring it up for your benefit, because being unrelated to the quote like that makes the comment seem dishonest, which makes the rest of your message less credible.
I don’t work for any fascist government so i’m not much familiar with how they operates, does intel/intelligence only collects data or do they also plan operations? I was referring to their strategies and tactics.
Anyway to stay on the topic even their intel that just collect data is not that “good”. Israel government run mass surveillance programs that affect just everyone.
You two are talking past each other. None of what you wrote has any connection to what the other person wrote. In fact, you guys probably don’t disagree about anything. OP is just giving an explanatory description, not a normative essay.
What do you want Iran to do when they get imposed heavy sanctions from everywhere they have no option but to rely on Russian again. Iran could have been a normal country with good relation will all country but the west interfered and organized a coup to back up a dictator.
Iran autocracy is an internal affair no foreign countries government has to interfere. We can just as people protest the theocracy but not supporting killing Iranians under the pretext of democracy like we did in Iran.
If you really cared about democracy you would have also pretested american support for Saudi arabia
When people point out the west is far from being the “good guys” shit like this is what they have in mind. USA and Europe supported israel and armed it to teeth making possible for the fascist israel government to conduct such attacks. If you don’t accept that our governments are as much rigged and evil as russia or china these useless war will never cease.
Why would you think people in the west would be upset about this?
If anything, the west has armed the shit out of Israel so they can do exactly this. Iran is a major Russian ally/puppet and an Islamic theocracy having nukes would be a very bad thing indeed. That’s not to say Israel hasn’t lied about why they’ve done this, because the footage of burning buildings in the middle of cities speak for themselves. They don’t look like no “nuclear research facilities” I’ve ever seen, so we’re clearly back to just bombing entire buildings to kill one person (if they were even there).
Iran knew full well what the response would be when they armed Hamas for the October attacks. It would mean Gaza being wiped off the map. Sure, those attacks hurt Israel, but they hurt Palestinians a whole lot more. Iran was just hoping that the resulting genocide stopped the west funding them.
If people in the west want this to stop (and lets be honest, any voting choices are pointless because all our major parties support war in the middle east), then we need to stop using oil and gas, so this whole area can go back to being a chunk of irrelevant desert so that all major players can take their fucking fingers out of it.
To me it sound like after admitting a war crime you are still pretending to be one of the good guys.
And so does israel government. They are aware that attacking iran may result in a war where thousand civilians may die but they don’t give a shit about it.
The area house some of the oldest cultures in the world, read its history. We should indeed stop using oil and gas and that’s something “extremists” have preach for decades warning us against global warming and conflicts.
Don’t mistake me pointing out what they’re doing for support of that “tactic”. Iran does not have infinite resources to build new facilities. You blow those labs up, it’s gone. Blow it up in the day, so were those nuclear scientists. Israeli intel is pretty damn good, even if their military are inhumane savages. They know where the facilities are, and they can knock them out whenever they want.
There is exactly one regional threat to Israel’s existence, and it’s a nuclear armed Iran.
And they do indeed have some of the oldest cultures in the world, but it all got a hell of a lot worse when we found oil under it.
It’s not good at all. Israel forces have been murdering so many civilians that collateral damage has become part of their plans. What they are doing won’t result in any peace or safety, they are setting the ground for even more conflicts which is exactly what those in power want. They are pretty damn good at serving their fascist ruler.
So… you must know that the atrocities committed have nothing to do with the quality of their intel.
In other words, the comment makes 0 sense as a reply. I mean it’s a fine comment on its own, it’s just not at all a reply to what you quoted. I really only bring it up for your benefit, because being unrelated to the quote like that makes the comment seem dishonest, which makes the rest of your message less credible.
I don’t work for any fascist government so i’m not much familiar with how they operates, does intel/intelligence only collects data or do they also plan operations? I was referring to their strategies and tactics.
Anyway to stay on the topic even their intel that just collect data is not that “good”. Israel government run mass surveillance programs that affect just everyone.
You two are talking past each other. None of what you wrote has any connection to what the other person wrote. In fact, you guys probably don’t disagree about anything. OP is just giving an explanatory description, not a normative essay.
What do you want Iran to do when they get imposed heavy sanctions from everywhere they have no option but to rely on Russian again. Iran could have been a normal country with good relation will all country but the west interfered and organized a coup to back up a dictator.
Iran autocracy is an internal affair no foreign countries government has to interfere. We can just as people protest the theocracy but not supporting killing Iranians under the pretext of democracy like we did in Iran.
If you really cared about democracy you would have also pretested american support for Saudi arabia