• Jack
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    Why Civil Resistance Works the book that 2x figure comes from has some major controversy about cherry picking data as well as playing with the definition of peaceful protest.

    If peaceful protests worked (as good as this article suggestions) the BBC wouldn’t be writing about them.

    • Peaceful protest works great under two conditions:

      1. Just a metric fuckton of participants

      2. The implicit threat of violent protest (e.g. Malcom X behind MLK)

    • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      The article pointedly says that non violent protests were more successful because a lot more people were involved than in the violent protests.

    • @favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
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      Claims without any supporting evidence aren’t that interesting.

      Edit: OP changed his post after I called him out for not referencing any sources

      • Jack
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        How to blow up a pipeline has a chapter on the topic.

        You can also read the original book and check the examples.

        P.C. this is article about the fourth mentioned protest in the article, and literally the second paragraph is about clashes. There are 11 casualties during this series of protests.

        But you knew that with your high standards of verifying information right?

        • @lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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          P.C. this is article about the four mentioned protest in the article, and literally the second paragraph is about clashes.

          Which states

          Clashes break out as police try to disperse the crowds and eight demonstrators are killed.

          Police killing protesters makes a violent movement?

          They’re not exactly an armed group of combatants coordinating attacks.

          Working with Maria Stephan, a researcher at the ICNC, Chenoweth performed an extensive review of the literature on civil resistance and social movements from 1900 to 2006 – a data set then corroborated with other experts in the field.

          Research.

          How to blow up a pipeline has a chapter on the topic.

          Research?

          But you knew that with your high standards of verifying information right?

          Do your standards measure up to that?

          • Jack
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            26 days ago

            The article also made claims. Did you check them?