• NutWrench
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    6211 hours ago

    They deliberately half-assed the parade because they don’t like the way Trump treats them. Trump calls them “suckers and losers.” He cuts their benefits Why would you show any loyalty (or enthusiasm) to someone who treats you like that?

    More Trump quotes: “You fucking generals. Why can’t you be more like Hitler’s generals?” 2017

    On the burial of US Army private Vanessa Guillén: “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” December 4, 2020. Trump has denied having made the remark.

    “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral.” August, 2018. Trump has denied having made this remark.

    re: John McCain, who was captured and tortured for five years: “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured, okay? I hate to tell you.” July 18, 2015.

    “But, you know, during the Vietnam War, I got very lucky. I had a very high lottery number.” November 9, 1995.

    On the 1,800 US Marines who died at Belleau Wood in France during World War I “Suckers.” November 11, 2018. Trump denies having made this remark.

    On US soldiers in World War I “Who were the good guys in this war?” November 11, 2018. Trump denies having asked this question.

    “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” November 11, 2018. Trump denies having made this remark.

    On disabled veterans “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.” September 30, 2019.

    “Look, I don’t want any wounded guys in the parade. This doesn’t look good for me.” Summer 2017.

    • @chaogomu@lemmy.world
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      I can understand why someone would ask who the good guys were in WW1.

      It’s a question that shows a childlike understanding of war in general, but that’s how war is often sold. A team sport with body bags.

      That said, WW1 is hard to pick a “good” side. It was a mess of a war, but no side was particularly vile when compared to the others…

      But for a US president, there’s only one valid answer.

      A US president can admit that Vietnam was not a shining moment is US history, but the world wars? No.

    • SkaveRat
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      I had a very high lottery number

      ah yes. that’s how lottery works

      • NutWrench
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        During the Vietnam War there was a draft, so you could end up being conscripted and shipped halfway around the world to fight it. One way to avoid getting drafted was a lottery where, if you picked a high enough random number, you could avoid being drafted.

        The thing is, Trump never picked a lottery number. Instead, he got five draft deferments, 1 medical and 4 educational. A lot of rich people at the time were able to avoid military service alltogether by getting a doctor to sign off that you had a sketchy illness. In Trump’s case, it was bone spurs, which apparently healed right up after the Vietnam War ended. Trump kept his 1-Y deferments until after 1972, when he was reclassified 4-F (permanently ineligible for service). By claiming he got a “high lottery number” Trump makes it sound like staying out of Vietnam was an amazing stroke of luck. That was just another lie. Trump had powerful friends and family intervene for him. Luck had nothing to do with it.

        • @Corn@lemmy.ml
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          Dodging the draft was the most moral action, after fragging your officer and joining the PAVN. Of course Trump only did it because it coincidentally happened to line up with what served him, but at least he didnt use his connections to pilot a bomber or something.

          🏅"Could have committed more atrocities"

    • @Corn@lemmy.ml
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      14 hours ago

      Ok, but 1. fuck John McCain that ghoulish piece of shit is in hell lmao. 2. Trump’s point about soldiers who die on the other side of the planet, fighting for the profits of people like Trump, is absolutely valid. I have no idea what that thought is even doing in an imperialist’s brain.

    • @BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz
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      48 hours ago

      I’m a PATRIOTIC Republican who PROUDLY wears the American Flag on my Shorts and Truck and TRUMPS RIGHT! Our Soldiers are LOSERS AND SUCKERS!