• @Ronno@feddit.nl
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    1919 hours ago

    It’s not always immediately obvious to what end you can use a new innovation. For instance, the Romans discovered and built a steam engine. But nobody connected the dots that it could be used to power a train.

    To me, it showcases the main reason why we need to collaborate. Only together, we can exponentially increase the potential of everything we build.

      • @Saleh@feddit.org
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        117 hours ago

        No fuel? All you need is something that makes a fire. And it is not like crude oil wasn’t know to people back then.

        If the invention had been further explored it is entirely reasonable to assume people could have invented a “practical” steam engine 2.000 years ago. All it would have needed is fixing the steam exhaust and have it drive a shoveled wheel.

        • @Kornblumenratte@feddit.org
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          11 hour ago

          They did not use coal back then – I’m not sure whether it was even known to the Mediterranean culture. Forests were plundered for shipbuilding. Crude oil was only available as naphtha in the Middle East, barely enough for the local fishermen to pitch there boats and for the Byzantines to use in their flamethrowers. Furthermore, crude oil was not used in steam engines — you cannot shovel a heep of oil under a kettle. Fuel existed, yes, but they had no access to it.

          All it would have needed is fixing the steam exhaust and have it drive a shoveled wheel.

          So a completely different machine? Shoveled wheels were invented centuries after Heron. Even if they played with such a setup – an open, non-pressurized turbine has no usable power. To use steam, you’ll have to pressurize it, and the technology to tame high pressure was only developed to build cannons that do not burst.

          In the history of the steam engine, the fuel supply was available before the engine. IIRC, Watt’s incentive for the invention of the steam engine was the need to drain coal mines.

        • @SippyCup@feddit.nl
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          315 hours ago

          Still, going from a stream powered spinning toy to locomotive is a few orders of magnitude. Heron’s “engine” was a little jet engine. Heated water pushed it’s way out of pipes. It’s a far cry from building steam pressure in a tank, using that pressure to drive a crank shaft, and pushing along a vehicle of any kind.

          There are a number of industrial era inventions required before you can even start putting something like a train together.

          The Romans didn’t even have replaceable parts yet. Every nail was custom made.

          If you haven’t seen it, watch Clickspring’s series on the antikithra mechanism. It’ll give you an idea of how hard it was to produce complicated machinery was at the time.

    • @Obi@sopuli.xyz
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      718 hours ago

      Imagine industrial revolution Roman Empire, thank fuck they didn’t connect the dots.