Alternate take: I fucking love working for Indian people. I’m an event organizer, and do a lot of Indian events. The trick is remembering that they’re all used to being the smartest person in the room; If they’re outside of India, it’s usually because they’re a doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc… So they tend to keep that same “I know best” attitude, even when they don’t have a fucking clue what they’re doing.
In my case, that’s organizing events. When I work with them, it’s usually the biggest event they’ll host, outside of a wedding. They’ll often have a very detail-oriented mindset towards organizing their events, which can be both a blessing and a curse. They’ll often fall into the trap of focusing on small details that the guests won’t even notice, (they’ll bust out a measuring tape and scoot decorations around, a half centimeter at a time to be sure they’re perfectly symmetrical across the room,) while totally neglecting bigger things that aren’t even on their radar because they don’t organize events professionally.
If you’re able to get them to trust that you know what you’re talking about, they’ll relax and let you actually do your job. They’re extremely kind and generous once they relax. Have I had bad experiences? Sure. But I’ve had Karen’s from every background. And a lot of those bad experiences were due to culture clash; Once I did enough Indian events, I learned how to adapt my workflow to help make them more comfortable, and to head off some of the more prominent issues.
And the food at their events is always amazing. I actually have leftovers from an Indian event in my fridge right now.
I don’t love my Indian neighbours so much, of whom I have many, because they hate dogs and I’m usually going out with my dogs when I see them. They act disgusted and give me nasty looks and avoid me. My dogs are small and don’t bark at them or do more than look at them, my old dog who just passed was blind and took no notice of them, but if I get in the elevator with an Indian person (or African or Arabic) they scream and act scared and act shitty to me and give me nasty looks. I realize pet ownership is not a big thing in these cultures, but stop screeching like I’m killing you when I take my 15 lb dog on the elevator and he’s ignoring you. It’s just rude to ME, if I was letting my pit bull corner you and jump all over you I get it, but otherwise grow up. They also don’t really say hi or anything, and Caucasian people pretty much always do, so it just doesn’t seem very friendly.
I’ve noticed that as well. I remember once while walking the dog I came across an Indian guy and his kid. I assume the kid wasn’t born in India because when it saw my dog the kid’s face lit up with excitement, but before the kid could even take one step towards me the dad grabbed him and with wide eyes was saying “he is scared of dogs, he is scared of dogs!”. I was like… Ok dude, I’ve got my dog on a tight leash, I’m just walking by. I’ll try not to scare your… Kid… anymore.
I started to get a little ornery with the kids when they screech and run away, and tell them that being afraid of animals is a bad way to go through life. You don’t have to want or have pets, but you should be reasonably able to interact with animals.
They “scream” lol exaggerate much. A lot of people especially dog owners are ignorant of the fact that the rest of us don’t care for their dogs, so many shitty owners in my apartment make no effort to leash their animal properly and the damn things wanna run up to you to sniff or slober or bite you, and so many nasty people don’t even clean up after taking their dogs out to shit on the property, I had to carefully walk around my building to avoid dog turds.
Well that isn’t me, I’m super careful about keeping my dogs apart from them but I can’t help sharing hallways or elevators very much. And a lot of them really do scream and run and be theatrical about it. Some of the kids are curious and I let them pet them always or answer questions,clearly many of them have never had a pet before, which is fine. But honestly it’s pretty often that they absolutely hate your dogs.
I used to work with animals professionally, and I never noticed Indian or Muslim people disliking pets. IME, caring about animals is one thing that brings people together across cultural divides.
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Alternate take: I fucking love working for Indian people. I’m an event organizer, and do a lot of Indian events. The trick is remembering that they’re all used to being the smartest person in the room; If they’re outside of India, it’s usually because they’re a doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc… So they tend to keep that same “I know best” attitude, even when they don’t have a fucking clue what they’re doing.
In my case, that’s organizing events. When I work with them, it’s usually the biggest event they’ll host, outside of a wedding. They’ll often have a very detail-oriented mindset towards organizing their events, which can be both a blessing and a curse. They’ll often fall into the trap of focusing on small details that the guests won’t even notice, (they’ll bust out a measuring tape and scoot decorations around, a half centimeter at a time to be sure they’re perfectly symmetrical across the room,) while totally neglecting bigger things that aren’t even on their radar because they don’t organize events professionally.
If you’re able to get them to trust that you know what you’re talking about, they’ll relax and let you actually do your job. They’re extremely kind and generous once they relax. Have I had bad experiences? Sure. But I’ve had Karen’s from every background. And a lot of those bad experiences were due to culture clash; Once I did enough Indian events, I learned how to adapt my workflow to help make them more comfortable, and to head off some of the more prominent issues.
And the food at their events is always amazing. I actually have leftovers from an Indian event in my fridge right now.
Why do you feel that way?
I don’t love my Indian neighbours so much, of whom I have many, because they hate dogs and I’m usually going out with my dogs when I see them. They act disgusted and give me nasty looks and avoid me. My dogs are small and don’t bark at them or do more than look at them, my old dog who just passed was blind and took no notice of them, but if I get in the elevator with an Indian person (or African or Arabic) they scream and act scared and act shitty to me and give me nasty looks. I realize pet ownership is not a big thing in these cultures, but stop screeching like I’m killing you when I take my 15 lb dog on the elevator and he’s ignoring you. It’s just rude to ME, if I was letting my pit bull corner you and jump all over you I get it, but otherwise grow up. They also don’t really say hi or anything, and Caucasian people pretty much always do, so it just doesn’t seem very friendly.
I’ve noticed that as well. I remember once while walking the dog I came across an Indian guy and his kid. I assume the kid wasn’t born in India because when it saw my dog the kid’s face lit up with excitement, but before the kid could even take one step towards me the dad grabbed him and with wide eyes was saying “he is scared of dogs, he is scared of dogs!”. I was like… Ok dude, I’ve got my dog on a tight leash, I’m just walking by. I’ll try not to scare your… Kid… anymore.
I started to get a little ornery with the kids when they screech and run away, and tell them that being afraid of animals is a bad way to go through life. You don’t have to want or have pets, but you should be reasonably able to interact with animals.
They “scream” lol exaggerate much. A lot of people especially dog owners are ignorant of the fact that the rest of us don’t care for their dogs, so many shitty owners in my apartment make no effort to leash their animal properly and the damn things wanna run up to you to sniff or slober or bite you, and so many nasty people don’t even clean up after taking their dogs out to shit on the property, I had to carefully walk around my building to avoid dog turds.
Well that isn’t me, I’m super careful about keeping my dogs apart from them but I can’t help sharing hallways or elevators very much. And a lot of them really do scream and run and be theatrical about it. Some of the kids are curious and I let them pet them always or answer questions,clearly many of them have never had a pet before, which is fine. But honestly it’s pretty often that they absolutely hate your dogs.
I used to work with animals professionally, and I never noticed Indian or Muslim people disliking pets. IME, caring about animals is one thing that brings people together across cultural divides.
Occasionally they will like them, but usually just kids who are curious.
Yeah, your neighbors sound pretty bad.