• @movies@lemmy.world
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    The fact these cowards are allowed to wear masks is riot-worthy.

    Imagine doing your job and you need to put on a mask specifically to hide your face—and not questioning whether you’re one of the bad guys.

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      394 days ago

      Legislators in California are introducing bills that would make that illegal.

      • It’s already not legal for ICE to hide their face and ID.

        Laws are for poors, queers and browns, not for the red white and blue blooded American patriots

          • @Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
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            Not OP and certainly IANAL but as far as I know there is NO law that forbids the use of masks for ICE agents. However, hiding their ID or refusing to identify themselves during detention or arrests IS illegal. However, the law states they have to show ID/identify themselves “as soon as practical and safe to do so," so they could theoretically just say they thought they’d be in danger by showing ID as flimsy of an excuse as that sounds.

            However, it is rather hilarious that they are pretty much all wearing masks while the political party parading them around is currently on a very real rampage to stop pretty much anyone in public from wearing masks for any type of public demonstration or event.

      • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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        184 days ago

        Unfortunately that won’t do anything. Democrats are not prepared to actually use the power they have as state officials to resist illegal federal actions. So you outlaw law enforcement from wearing masks. They keep doing it anyway. Then what?

        I see zero indication that Democrats have any intention of using force to stop ICE from violating the law. These ICE agents are already flagrantly violating the law. This arrest is flagrantly illegal. Yet are they using any of their states’ out of control police budgets to provide armed police protection to state lawmakers? No. They’re just letting duly elected representatives be illegally arrested.

        This is why the law you’re talking about is purely performative. It’s meant to generate headlines, but it won’t actually move the needle.

        States need to actually start using force against federal agents that are violating the law. Will this risk escalation and civil war? Yes. But if you’re not willing to risk civil war to protect the most fundamental rights of the citizens of your state, then you have no right to be a leader in a democratic country. You’re too much of a coward, and you’re simply not willing to fight to defend your freedoms.

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      Don’t forget the cowardice of Democrats in general. Why are these lawmakers just going around undefended? They should be being escorted by a contingent of state police fully willing to use lethal force to protect their state’s lawmakers against unlawful and illegal arrest.

      If the governor of NY announced that he was sending NY state troopers to arrest Donald Trump for violating the law, do you think the Secret Service would just sit back and let that happen? States and the federal government are both sovereign. The states have just as much authority to unilaterally arrest Trump as Trump does to unilaterally arrest state leaders. Yet the state leaders are just spinelessly sitting back and letting themselves be arrested. States have out of control police budgets, but the cowards aren’t even willing to use some of those immense resources to prevent duly elected representatives from being illegally arrested.

      Here’s a hint. If the feds come to try and arrest your governor illegally, you shoot them. You put them in the ground. I don’t care if it risks a civil war. This is the kind of thing that is worth risking a civil war over.

      But unfortunately these spineless Democrats are not capable of thinking like this. They’re utterly unsuited for the challenge of the moment.

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            A democratic candidate just got put in handcuffs because ICE is going all fascist and you’re somehow making it the Democrats’ fault. Fuck off with that.

            I haven’t forgiven anything in either of these comments. Try harder next time.

            • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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              A democratic candidate just got put in handcuffs because ICE is going all fascist and you’re somehow making it the Democrats’ fault.

              Yes, because it’s all pointlessly performative. It’s like that stupid taco truck or those signs at the state of the union. Pointless performative crap.

              Democrats have forgotten how to actually use and exercise POWER. Republicans still remember how to use it. And this is why Democrats are losing.

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          34 days ago

          What does this even mean dude? You want them to all just get arrested? Like, actually, what the fuck does this mean?

          • @AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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            104 days ago

            The hell are you talking about? ICE is turning into the gestapo and that dude wants to blame Democrats for it.