• @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    210 hours ago

    follow the just laws and break the unjust laws

    That would be the very definition of NG, not CG.

    they aren’t obliged to do the opposite of the law

    No, but they’re actively opposed to the very concept of laws. That’s what “chaotic” means in this context.

    • Melmi
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      9 hours ago

      Maybe I’m confused what you mean. Being opposed to the concept of laws doesn’t mean you need to break them; you can still think “people shouldn’t murder” or “slavery is bad”. I don’t think incidentally following laws makes you not Chaotic. You just don’t care what the law is; you’d be doing the same thing regardless of whether it was the law or not.

      Besides, I’m not sure “opposed to the concept of laws” is really true for all but the most extreme examples of CG. It seems like its more about wanting freedom than just hating laws themselves.

      • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        14 hours ago

        Being opposed to the concept of laws doesn’t mean you need to break them

        True, but being opposed to the concept of laws means that you’re more inclined to break laws to achieve your aims than to work within the law.

        Chaotic in this context means that you consider the very concept of law an impediment to justice whereas “do good things regardless of whether they’re lawful or illegal” kind of behavior you’re ascribing to chaotic good is the textbook definition of NEUTRAL good.

        Besides, I’m not sure “opposed to the concept of laws” is really true for all but the most extreme examples of CG

        There’s vast differences of scale, sure, but lawful - neutral - chaotic is about your relationship with laws as a concept that governs the actions of people for better or worse.

        It seems like its more about wanting freedom than just hating laws themselves.

        Nah, freedom and law aren’t inherently in opposition to each other.

        Sure, some laws restrict your freedom to do certain things that lawmakers want to discourage for one reason or the other, but some other laws are there to PROTECT your freedom to do other things deemed desirable or value neutral.

        Just like some laws existing to protect consumers from being exploited by corporations and others existing to protect corporations from the consumers they exploit doesn’t make “law” and “exploitation” synonyms or antonyms.