And from the glowing reviews it’s clear that

  1. W11 doesn’t actually need a new PC to run and the limitations are completely artificial

  2. For many people, a ten years old PC is fast enough (or even faster than a brand new Intel N100 PC that is officially W11 compatible). They won’t even notice that’s something from 2015, as long it has a shiny new case, enough RAM and SSD

  3. Amazon doesn’t care that the PC comes with pirated software, or that someone is scamming their customers, as long they get their 15% cut from marketplace sales (the cost of a genuine license of W11 pro and office exceeds the price of those ewaste specials)

  • @Moonrise2473@feddit.itOP
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    94 days ago

    I call it ewaste because it is coming from that. Banks and corporations change computers every 3-5 years because accounting love to lease rather to buy

    Those computers go to ewaste centers, then some not honest sellers take the components (that usually were left on 24/7 because in offices nobody bothers to turn off computers) and put them in brand new cases

    That’s why is a scam, selling old stuff that came from an ewaste center as brand new

    • Farid
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      74 days ago

      But “e-waste” means something so outadet that it’s useless. Or unrepairable. Those computers are perfectly fine for 80% of users.

      And are they explicitly saying that these are new? While you know for sure it’s heavily used equipment?

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          But are you certain they aren’t new and this is a scam? I’m interested to know how you determined those are used.

          Btw, where does it say “Nuovo”? I can’t find it. Is it not on the screenshot?

            • Farid
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              12 days ago

              Of course it’s not new new, the CPU is 10 years old. But who would think that it is?

                • Farid
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                  12 days ago

                  But “new” in the context of shopping just means “not used”, not that it was released in the past year or two.

                  And as I mentioned in another reply, they are not advertising anything false if those components are actually unused. If the buyer expects some band new, recently released machine with those specs, it’s on them. When you’re buying electronics, some minimal amount of research is required, or you outsource it to your family/friends.

    • @LilB0kChoy@midwest.social
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      44 days ago

      Banks and corporations change computers every 3-5 years because accounting love to lease rather to buy

      3-5 years is a pretty standard depreciation schedule for IT equipment like computers, peripheral accessories etc.

      Computers and laptops (using Straight-line method): 31.67% with a useful life of 3 years.

      Computers and laptops (using Written Down Value method): 63.16% with a useful life of 3 years

      It really has nothing to do with leasing vs. buying.

      • @Moonrise2473@feddit.itOP
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        23 days ago

        Yes ok from an accounting point of view.

        But from a functional point of view?

        I see how my bank teller works: they connect to a terminal server

        I see how my other bank works: a VM that runs AS/400 that is acting as a terminal to their mainframe

        Why they’re changing computers so often? The first one can use any PC released in the past 15 years and the second one can use any released in the past 30 years

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          I can’t speak to your specific examples since I don’t work there.

          The reasons beyond CapEx considerations are things like security, compliance, warranty coverage expiration, standardization across the org, general employee satisfaction, hardware falling out of vendor support.

          I doubt the banks computers are single purpose or purchased specifically for each job role. Sure a 15 or 30 year old computer might technically work but there’s no way it’ll meet regulatory security compliance rules.

          The home user/hobbyist approach really doesn’t scale to corporate IT.