The fediverse used to feel pretty anti-ai, but over the past month or two I’ve noticed a LOT of generated memes and images, and they tend to have positive votes.

Has there been a sudden culture shift here? Or is there a substantial percentage of people just unable to tell the difference anymore?

    • gon [he]
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      472 days ago

      I think it’s the one I use (dbzer0). I’m pretty sure it’s explicitly pro-AI generated content.

      • Cris
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        222 days ago

        Huh, I wouldn’t have guessed db0, interesting. I’d kinda considered exploring db0 as a future instance but maybe its not such a good fit for me. Thanks for the answer!

        • gon [he]
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          131 day ago

          What I’ll say is that I really don’t mind it. Personally, I’m not a big fan of AI art at all, and I don’t really use generative AI much in any capacity. I also don’t see generative AI on my feed… Basically ever? I guess because I don’t really browse Local.

          db0 is anarchist, and that does come with some lenience that some people might find to be a little off-putting, but the AI part of it is pretty much irrelevant, unless you’re seeking it out - from my experience, at least, and based on how I use Lemmy.

          Not that I mean to shill for db0 tho lol use whatever instance you feel like fits you best!

        • gon [he]
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          262 days ago

          They claim they are not cool with generative AI

          Are you sure about that? The instance description explicitly endorses generative AI. I think you might’ve misread.

          • db0
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            91 day ago

            We’re not against GenAI as a tech. We’re against corporate GenAI though.

        • A Wild Mimic appears!
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          52 days ago

          I would say that the general mood here that generative AI for creative use or technical tasks is fine, enabling people is a good thing. We are primarily an anarchist community, and generally not happy with the massive corporate control over something that should belong to everyone (bc the models are the cultural output of everyone) and the amount of VC money that is used to push AI where it doesn’t belong in search of the next big thing.

          Quite a few people run models on their own hardware (like me, to support me when learning stuff, or when my wife wants new seasonal pics representing our cats in cute styles) or are using AI Horde

          There are users on our instance that are not cool with GenAI in general, but they are the minority.

      • @spunow@lemmy.myserv.one
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        Did you know that there are no instances* defederated from dbzer0? So apart from setting up and running your own instance to defederate**, there is no way of making your feed filter out the subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse, whether or not it is welcome there? Did you also know that Fediseer, the default web tool for instances to document issues and endorsements of other instances, which incidentally is maintained by the admin of db0, shows that lemmy.dbzer0.com has received no censures whatsoever from other instances? Do you think that users who avidly use AI to generate visual content for their posts may also avidly use AI to generate their text posts and comments? Countless accounts could simply be 1s and 0s from a machine instead of any actual human soul behind it (wait, isn’t that why many Lemmings left Reddit?).

        *barring instances with hidden blocklists

        **or instead manually blocking every user from dbzer0, which would be futile as they continue to gain users

        • 56!
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          102 days ago

          No need to block every user from the instance, you can block the entire instance in your account settings.

          • @spunow@lemmy.myserv.one
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            42 days ago

            Copied from another comment of mine:

            It seems as though you misunderstand how blocking instances and defederation work. If I am hosted on instance X and I block instance Y but don’t block instance Z, users from instance Y can still post onto communities hosted on instance Z and I will still see these posts. This is what I referred to when I said “subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse”. Defederating does require an instance, and only by defederating from instance Y would the content made by instance Y users that is posted onto any instance become wholly filtered out for users on instance X.

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              Its not even just instance z. If they post to instance x, you will also see the user. You only will not see the posts to instance Y.

              Which is counter-intuitive to how one would assume an instance-wide block should work.

      • Cris
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        32 days ago

        That is genuinely really interesting, I didn’t expect it to be db0. Thanks!

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        I think the appeal of seeing stuff that people make is that it reflects the humans who made it.

        I’m generally not especially interested in what an algorithm produces, at least not in the same way or for the same reason as I am things made by people.

        I don’t know what gen ai could produce that I would sincerely find good, it lacks the humanity that gives that product any worth.

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        11 day ago

        Yeah, so much of it is a mediocre/old joke overlayed on a generated image.

        I’m guessing, there’s people out there, who genuinely just flood social media with these mediocre posts to try to grow accounts or similar…