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@naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml • 1 year ago

US intelligence believes Putin probably didn't order Navalny to be killed, Wall Street Journal reports

www.reuters.com

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US intelligence believes Putin probably didn't order Navalny to be killed, Wall Street Journal reports

www.reuters.com

@naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml • 1 year ago
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  • @MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world
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    Did he say, “Kill this man,” no, probably not.

    Did he say, “Take care of this problem,” I’m willing to bet.

    • Jimmybander
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      I mean. Being locked in a Russian prison is not good for your health. The system is working as intended.

      • mozz
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        It’s actually preferable for Putin for a few different reasons if it’s simply a slow death because of unlivable conditions, than to have someone take him out back and shoot him quickly or something like that.

        But yes, the system is working 100% as intended; this is a feature.

    • @Woozythebear@lemmy.world
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      Over six thousand prisoners died behind bars in America during 2020. It turns out that prisons are awful places with awful conditions that lead to people’s death.

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        • @Woozythebear@lemmy.world
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          Bro are you ok?

    • NegativeNull
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      Won’t someone rid me of this meddlesome journalist?

    • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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      Obligatory Mitchell and Webb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6cake3bwnY

  • @jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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    To be clear, Putin never ordered the death of anyone. Some Russians just have shitty windows and are extra susceptible to the effects of gravity. They didn’t choose to be pre-disposed to falling to their deaths. They were just born that way. What are you gonna do?

    /s

    • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      It could also be some other, lower down Kremlin guy who wanted him dead. Unfortunately this won’t load for me, so I can’t comment too much.

  • Dippy
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    he was probably quite happy with knowing his opposition leader and having them controlled that way

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    • SaltySalamander
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      Putin is every bit as bad as claimed. If you don’t see that, you’re fucking blind. Navalny was only in prison to begin with because Putin is a thin-skinned shitheel that can’t handle even a modicum of criticism.

      • davel [he/him]
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        I can’t speak to why Navalny was in prison, I only know that he was a fascist who wanted to invite US capitalists back to resume their neoliberal shock therapy plundering that started under Yeltsin and ended under Putin.

        • 2007: Video: Alexei Navalny Compares Muslims to Cockroaches
        • BBC, 2021: Amnesty [International] strips Alexei Navalny of ‘prisoner of conscience’ status
        • Workers World, 2024: Who was Alexei Navalny? A violent white supremacist and fascist on U.S. payroll
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      • davel [he/him]
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        10•1 year ago

        Yes we just love us some dictators uwu 🙄 Copypasta from a previous conversation:

        Honest question from a non-communist, based on your reply here. Does one need to support Putin to be a Marxist?

        In a word, no. In a few more words, support for Russia (not Putin, as historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory) is only a partial, temporary, tactical one, in the context of imperialist liberation. Russia is still a capitalist state, though, so it’s a two stage strategy: first liberate colonized bourgeois states from colonizer states, and second revolution within those liberated bourgeois states.

        Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US. So now the support for Russia is in the context of keeping the colonizers from recolonizing it, and supporting Russia to the extent that it helps other states liberate themselves. But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.

        • Robert Parry, 2015: The Mess that Nuland Made
        • Jeffery Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
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          I agree entirely that Russia is liberating Ukraine like they did with Georgia… if you replace liberating with vassalizing.

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  • @Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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    It’s surprising that he even survived as long as he did after taking nerve gas.

    Regardless, I sure as hell won’t be complaining about a racist like Navalny dying

  • @LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world
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    Imma press X to doubt

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    • @Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca
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      Putin wanted him to die a painful slow death in jail. He instead got a painful less slow death in jail.

    • NoLifeGaming
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      Gotta gather support for funding and hate for Russia somehow. As far as why or how he ended up dead who knows. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a false flag

  • @reksas@sopuli.xyz
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    Putin likely ordered him to be kept in such conditions that he will die because of that.

  • @Olifant@lemmy.ml
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    I never thought he specifically ordered the killing blow but given that he did order him jailed in cruel conditions under a ton of bogus charges Navalny’s death is on his head either way.

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    Riiiiiignt…

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