• @Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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    491 year ago

    "We’ve entered new political and legal territory as a nation. Donald Trump will now force every GOP candidate to trash our judicial system.”

    — Presidential historian Tim Naftali

  • I didn’t read the article; the CBS news site isn’t the worst, but it employs some of the common, horrible site design patterns, and is painful to read.

    However: 34 counts. Each with a maximum possible 4 years incarceration sentence. It increases the odds of some jail time, for at least one or two counts.

    The judge is said to be taking a lot of factors into consideration; I hope one is them is the unusually unanimous verdict on such a large number of counts.

    • @something_random_tho@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Don’t forget the threats against the judge and his family, the jury and court staff. Needing a gag order just to keep people safe from intimidation should count for something.

    • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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      101 year ago

      I hope one of the factors considered is the danger to society demonstrated by repeatedly violating court orders to make sure his Trumpanzees target court staff with threats and harassment.

    • Bahnd Rollard
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      I hope that there is some actual jail time involved, but im expecting ‘You will write “I will not create fraudulant business records” on the chalk board 1000 times per count’…

    • Fluba
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      31 year ago

      I’d say house arrest is the most likely sentence. Concurrent too, and probably not all 4 years. Secret Service will never work for a prison sentence.

      • Should the Secret Service be a consideration?

        Let’s say Trump brutally tortured and sexually abused some pre-teens in a basement in Texas, was tried and convicted and given a death sentance. Does the fact that hrs under the protection of the Secret Service have any bearing on the judgment? Should it?

        That said, you’re probably right. He’ll have to spend a couple of years playing golf at Mar-a-Lago, a truly unjust and extreme punishment 🙄

          • @IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world
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            21 year ago

            He certainly won’t need it if incarcerated. Prisons have a lot of experience segregating high profile prisoners for the safety of both the inmate and the guards.

    • themeatbridge
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      491 year ago

      Poor people go to jail. Rich felons only go to jail when their victims are richer.

    • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      231 year ago

      Despite 34 guilty verdicts, they’re all the same trial so he’s a “first offender”.

      A normal person would get probation for first time class e felony in NY.

      He could get 1-4 years, and it would be justified.

      But it’s very very unlikely. And even if he does get sentenced, he ain’t reporting to jail anytime soon.

      Steve Bannon got 4 months over two years ago…

      Still hasn’t started serving it yet.

      They’re gonna be a lot more hesitant to send trump to jail, and he has a lot more money for lawyers to stall.

      Even with his shitty lawyers, you don’t need to be good to stall, and that’s always been his legal strategy. To just kick the can down the road.

      The very last stall tactic is going to be “I’m too old and ill now, I can’t go to jail”. In all likelihood, he’d keep stalling till he’s dead.

      • Dr. Bob
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        81 year ago

        Michael Cohen got 3 years for his part in the scheme.

        • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          121 year ago

          Cohen took a deal…

          That deal included prison…

          When you take a deal, you can’t really stall as efficiently. Both sides sit down and come to an agreement about how things will happen.

        • MxM111
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          Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts including campaign-finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. It were more serious allegations.

    • @oxjox@lemmy.ml
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      61 year ago

      In an analysis of comparable cases brought by the Manhattan district attorney’s office, about 10% resulted in imprisonment.