• Jo Miran
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    7 months ago

    Someone who does not appreciate those who steal from exploitative global corporations, is not someone worth knowing.

    • @cogman@lemmy.world
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      1637 months ago

      The entire reason the McDonald’s app exists is so McDonald’s can have variable prices to rip you off based on what they learn about your habits.

      I hardly classify using their services in unintended ways as “stealing”.

      • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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        267 months ago

        If tech went down for six months, they’d offer you a discount for hopping on one leg while rubbing your stomach and patting your head.

        Besides data collection, the main purpose is to get more money out of people willing to pay more without missing out on people who won’t pay that much.

        It’s tiered pricing where they’re fine with you selecting a tier, as long as they steer enough to the higher one l.

    • deaf_fish
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      697 months ago

      Maybe not something you show off on the first date. Got to lay down the Marxist theory first.

        • @BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world
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          227 months ago

          We are the poor.

          Yes, there are poorer people out there, but I think we all kinda forget how big the divide is. It lets us put ourselves in a place where we feel like we’re doing well comparatively, but I think it’s important that we remember that we’re all being taken advantage of and we all deserve better. Yeah, definitely some will need a bit more uplifting than others, but it’s Us vs. Them, and I think we spend too much time trying to further sub-divide that ‘Us’. Thank you for attending my crazy segue.

          We’re all poor enough to deserve those free nugs though.

          • @ziggurat@lemmy.world
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            107 months ago

            Yes we are the poor. If you need a job to survive you are the working class. The middle class is a concept to avoid people eating the rich. This also counts if your salary is a million, if you need to continue to work to make your life work, you are the working class.

            • @Aceticon@lemmy.world
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              87 months ago

              There are only two classes:

              • The Owner class who lives of the income from merelly owning things.
              • The Worker class who has to work for a living.
            • @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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              57 months ago

              Also originally the middle class is wealthy people who have no title. Like landed gentry and the bourgeoisie. And the upper class is aristocracy and nobility.

        • @Aceticon@lemmy.world
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          67 months ago

          You unwittingly (or maybe purposefully but few spotted it so far) tripped on the Moral Core of the matter.

          Somebody tricking the McDonald’s system for personal upside maximization isn’t the class warrior so many are portraying here, rather he’s just another greedy fucker with a swindle that just so happens to target a large corpo.

          A class warrior would be trying to make things better for everybody, not just himself.

          I can see how his date’s take on this might have been that he’s a guy who is dishonest for his own gain, which is hardly the kind of person you want to get in a relationship with.

          Further, somebody with their own decent notebook and the technical knowhow to run Android emulators is almost certainly not poor and actually needing to do this, which would be the only valid reason to do it.

          • @WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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            37 months ago

            I don’t view it through the lens of Marxism. Rather, I see this simply as cheating a cheater. The whole reason McD’s is pushing the app is to gamify the experience, take advantage of people’s psychological weaknesses, and trick them into paying more than they otherwise wood. I see this as just scamming the scammers.

  • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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    2067 months ago

    Nobody got anything to say about her reply?! She could have just ghosted him but instead gave an honest reply.

    • flicker
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      817 months ago

      Many people who get mad at getting ghosted also often get mad at the “bullshit” reasons they get, so you’re not going to hear a lot of praise.

      • @Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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        37 months ago

        Its also perfectly fine to just say “Hey, sorry, I don’t think we’re compatible” and not even give reasons why

  • @solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    1907 months ago

    i can’t help but think that if your first date with someone is drive thru mcdonalds, maybe that should have been the first clue

    • @5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 months ago

      If your first date is a glorious scam heist, the future looks promising

      Maybe don’t order carnist options though

    • misterdoctor
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      647 months ago

      My first date with my girlfriend was at a Wendy’s and we took the bus to get there. That was 2005. We got married in 2009 and just celebrated our 15th wedding anniversary. It doesn’t matter where you go or how much you spend, it just matters who you’re there with.

      • Riskable
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        77 months ago

        How many times did they say, “Sir, this is a Wendy’s” before they just gave up and let you stay all the way until you got married there?

      • @tyler@programming.dev
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        17 months ago

        They said “drive through” explicitly. I think there’s a difference between going somewhere because you’re poor and going somewhere because you’re lazy.

    • @ubergeek@lemmy.today
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      57 months ago

      I dunno. McDs was mine and my spouse’s first date, after church.

      We are married 27 years now…

      • @DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz
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        27 months ago

        I’m barely older than you’re marriage but McDonald’s was a very different vibe when I was a kid. I still wouldn’t say anything to shame people going to McDonald’s for a first date today.

  • @PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    1487 months ago

    I’m a tech guy. I dont mind the occasional redistribution of wealth from corporations. I can even appreciate exploits found in the wild like this or doing hacking when it doesn’t hurt people.

    What this signals, though, is that you are cheap. I side with the girl on this. It’s a date. Pay for the meal and show her you can be normal first.

      • @GiveOver@feddit.uk
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        447 months ago

        How is it still expected for men to pay in this day and age. When I’m on a date I’m looking for an equal partner, not a dependent.

        • @scutiger@lemmy.world
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          57 months ago

          IME it hasn’t been expected in some time, at least from me. If I invite someone out on a date, I’m usually offering, but I’ve definitely had many split checks and a few that paid for the whole thing.

        • @KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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          27 months ago

          Yea wow women are so equal in this game and have to chase men suddenly it’s so 2024 wow that it’s like that ever or has ever been

    • Midnight Wolf
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      317 months ago

      Eh, I dunno why everyone is so negative about this. A knowledgeable person, free food, and (I suppose the critical point) I’m into this stuff too, so fuck yeah let’s go. And whipping out that knowledge boner on the first go? Shit, setting the bar kinda high. What’s in store for next time, gonna joyride in a new car after you take control of it remotely? Oh just take me now, I’m ready~.

      Just gotta remember to torch it after, evidence is a bitch. Or so I’ve heard. Ehem. Anyway… nuggets, not a big deal, but knowledge is sexy af.

      • @TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com
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        47 months ago

        There’s “I don’t care where I go as long as I have good company” and then there’s “I’m going to scam mcnuggets”. Yes it’s a neat trick and it’s free but that better not be the main part of the date.

        If you had already eaten, and then donated the free nuggets to a homeless dude, that would be good.

        • Midnight Wolf
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          37 months ago

          You can do both, though. And I mean, remember when a double cheeseburger was $1? Or when 10 nuggets were $5? A big mac meal was $6.50? How much are those now?

          Fuck the greedy corpos. As far as I’m concerned, it’s fair game. I’ll add a 4th order for the homeless dude outside.

    • Subverb
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      287 months ago

      Yes, he was trying to come off as a cool hacker, but that’s not why she’s brushing him off.

      It’s because he said “I’m in.”

    • @explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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      277 months ago

      Conversely, this is a great way to filter out normals who want to pay a corporation to prove how rich they are. You just gotta be yourself and you’ll get the person that’s right for you.

    • @JigglySackles@lemmy.world
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      187 months ago

      Or maybe, just maybe, we should love people as they are and not make up stupid societal bullshit to follow for an indeterminate amount of time. I get you don’t want to let out all the crazy before you know someone, and maybe this really is too much up front and your point stands. But I don’t think it’s that grevious. Maybe they are cheap, or maybe they wanted to show how skilled they are, or maybe they thought “this is really cool to me, I hope she finds it cool too”.

      Either way it’s clear she’s not a fit for him. But that’s kind of a stupid note to end things on. I hope he finds someone more tolerant and understanding that takes an interest instead of being judgy and “weirded out” by essentially a hobby.

    • @ameancow@lemmy.world
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      167 months ago

      Yah this isn’t something you break out on the first date, you really have to get to know the person and learn what their social views and politics are before you try to “subvert capitalism at the nearest mcdonalds.”

      I mean, good tho that he learned early. It’s just too bad he’s going to get a billion messages asking how to do this trick exactly and McDonalds Corporation will have to patch their kiosks.

      We can’t have nice things.

  • @Sergio@slrpnk.net
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    1317 months ago

    That’s kind of like going up to a display that says “free sample - one per customer” and taking several samples. And doing so on a first date, like: this is who I am. It’s not really bad or anything, it’s just… kind of weird and embarassing.

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      It is overtly bad. It’s making someone’s shitty job worse because you think you’re better and so smart for beating the system. Garbage people.

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        447 months ago

        Is there anything that really makes their job shittier about this though? Than than dealing with three orders instead of one?

        If anything with the focus these days on metrics around how fast they can serve customers these three simple orders probably made their metrics look better so they could slack off on the next few orders.

        But yeah just says “I’m a cheapskate.”

          • Dragon Rider (drag)
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            237 months ago

            Green flag. Drag doesn’t date people who pay for meat or movies. Drag expects potential romantic partners to be pirates who are either vegan or meat thieves. In a neoliberal capitalist world, the biggest act of rebellion against the unfair conditions of production is not to pay.

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                57 months ago

                Also, drag would very much like to be told how to use Android emulators to scam McDonald’s out of chicken nuggies. Drag is finding it difficult to fit fake meat into drag’s budget, but drag still wants chicken. Drag has a bottle of tonkatsu sauce that turns fried chicken into Japanese style katsu chicken.

          • IndescribablySad@threads.net
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            57 months ago

            Depends on the context. If they start out with a speech about revenge, use it as a demonstration of their work, or make it a goofy play on 90s hacking, it could be fun for the right person at the right time.

            But if they went into it saying “I’m such a little tendieslut. God, I can’t wait to steal some chicken. My neighbor blew me behind there *point* when it was still a Wendy’s, and that was confusing because she was just supposed to drive me to my mom’s place so I could get ready for junior league” then their audience shrinks considerably further.

        • @CaptPretentious@lemmy.world
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          67 months ago

          I’d say, potentially yes.

          I say that, because 1, is been over 2 decades since I worked a McDonald’s, so things could have changed. And 2, it depends on the time of day. And secret third option, depends on the customer.

          So generally speaking a certain amount of food will be cooked before hand and kept in a warmer for only so many minutes (ideally). So it is possible that there wasn’t enough chicken nuggets ready to go and they just had to be counted out. If that’s the case the person just needed to make more chicken nuggets.

          However, even back when I worked there you had a plethora of customers who would demand fresh stuff and I know it’s only gotten more popular to do (don’t do that). So if this individual demanded that they be freshly made and it was done during the rush… Then yes absolutely this could have made somebody’s day worse.

          • @Emerald@lemmy.world
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            Fresh McDonalds!? 😂

            But seriously… who demands McDonalds to be fresh? It’s literally fast food.

            • @CaptPretentious@lemmy.world
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              Fresh in they want it cooked “fresh”. People do it all the time because they are under the idea that the food just sits until sold, and it’s some life hack to demand it be made fresh. People do it with fries all the time, or they’ll demand “no salt” (forcing someone to make it fresh) and then once getting the food, ask for a shit ton of salt packets (the salt will not stick to the fries at this point). For sure, not all McD’s hold themselves to the corporate standards, but I’d say a fair number do.

              Its especially silly to ask for it to be “made fresh” during rush, since they’re likely cycling through everything in minutes.

              • @Emerald@lemmy.world
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                17 months ago

                I’d have a hard time not laughing at customers if I worked in fast food I feel. But I am also good at bullshitting so who knows?

        • @MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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          57 months ago

          Ever worked food or retail? I mean yeah the guy’s a dipshit, but you aren’t considering factors that make several workers’ day worse.

            • @MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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              You need to make 40 trays of samples an hour. Here goes some dipshit thinking he’s hurting the system by popping a bunch in his fat ass mouth. Now you gotta make more trays. Holy shit this post is really showing me that Lemmy might be a bunch of teenagers in a trench coat.

              • @papalonian@lemmy.world
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                They’re asking about the McDonald’s example. Obviously taking a bunch of free samples means they have to make more samples. If you’re working at McDonald’s, you’re either making food for 8 hours or selling stuff for 8 hours, you’re never going to finish serving or making food.

                • @MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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                  Why am I not getting through to you people who have no experience in food service? Yeah you are going to finish making or selling food. People/Orders come in rushes. Once the rush dies down you can prep for the next rush. Once that is done you can take a fucking break. The people who work at McDonald’s aren’t robots. Think for a goddamn second. Ever take a moment of a break at your job? They deserve that too.

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            Closest to this I’ve worked was a convenience store which included a deli.

            In that context the way I would have seen it was that he probably would have come in and bought them anyways, so the only difference to me would be sticking them in three bags vs one. No different than anyone else asking to cut their pizza a different way or whatever other minor out of the ordinary changes customers wanted.

            If we were swamped with orders then yeah I wouldn’t be happy about it, but you get over it and move on that is part of working retail.

        • @explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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          When I worked in a restaurant I wouldn’t have cared because I got paid hourly, like a McDonald’s employee. The customer is still making a habit out of McDonald’s so maybe this is what corporate wants.

      • @trolololol@lemmy.world
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        27 months ago

        Oh poor McDonald’s will never recover from this. Now they’ll have to treat staff a bit worse to clutch back part of the losses.

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      Great first date if you meet on one of the infosec mastodon instances, but otherwise you just look like a dirtbag, yup.

  • @ceviem@lemmy.world
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    637 months ago

    What am I missing? Is there a “free 10 nuggets, 1x per customer” kind of thing going on?

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      Someone else posted something about the price being different based on your user profile/purchase history, so maybe having three logins, they can’t build up a proper profile.

      Or they have a “limit 10 per customer” thing?

      Edit: Guy above me posted that it was a sign-up-and-get-free-nuggets kinda thing…

  • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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    As a straight dude, I’ll date ya Eli. Absolute legend, showing character and something different.

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    There’s a bunch of context missing from this. Did he tell her hey, I know a cool way we can get free McNuggets? Or did he just ask her out, took her to McDonald’s and randomly pulled out a laptop with android emulators to get free McNuggets? Context matters a lot.

    If it’s the second one, it’s giving me these vibes: :1000011193

  • @Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Showing off tech skills, sticking it to the man, and getting chicken nuggets? You’re great and dodged a bullet with that girl. Find someone who appreciates you!

  • @bstix@feddit.dk
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    397 months ago

    Back in my day, we’d hack the local convenience store without computers. Walk in, stroll to the fridge, put cold beers in the inner pockets of the jacket and then walk out.

    For some weird reason this also didn’t impress the girls. They’d rather hang with the affluent fuck boi who paid for stuff with his parents money.

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    367 months ago

    Anyone here who wants pro dating moves for 2024:

    Have the ability to change your sheets right in front of your date, at least twice.

    Own towels, not just one towel but sets of towels. Like an adult.

    Have soap & toilet paper & hand towels in your bathroom(s)

    Basically having a stocked linen closet will go a long way.

    Also try being rich and fucking hot.

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        I’ve been married for years now, have multiple kids, my wife still makes fun of the fact that when she moved in with me, I had a pack of sausages, and a 6 pack of beer in the fridge…

        My issue with buying food, is that when I go to the store my ADHD kicks me in the face, and I don’t know what I need. I’d make a shopping list, but my ADHD don’t allow me to do that. I have to submit papers for the chance to get evaluated if I need adhd medication, but my ADHD stops me from doing that today, because the deadline doesn’t exist

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          A trick i use is having google home devices. When i notice im out of something i just tell google to add it to a shopping list. The real trick is remembering to check everything off when im shopping lol

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        less necessary in my experience tbh, I’d substitute that for a date to the grocery store to buy things to cook them dinner.

        I’d also like to throw out here this isn’t just targeted at men for women, if you want to be seen as an attractive partner show that you’re competent and capable.