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    The only reason it worked is because the Millitary backed off after Parliament overturned it, despite the Millitary blocking access to the building from Parliamentarians. The Millitary isn’t bound by some electoral laws of the universe, they just as easily could have said the vote was illigetimate. This is a unique circumstance and cannot be used as universal.

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      157 months ago

      The Millitary isn’t bound by some electoral laws of the universe, they just as easily could have said the vote was illigetimate.

      Well I mean they are bound by laws, to the extent that laws have meaning. And responding to legal instruction would seem to validate the force and efficacy of the legal system, right?

      • Cowbee [he/they]
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        Yes and no. Being bound by “legal” means is a pretense for civility, ie the social contract, but the millitary in no way must follow this. The Republic of Korea has had several millitary dictatorships, from Park Chung-hee to Chun Doo-Hwan, and to think any system is immune to such circumstances is false thinking.

  • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Americans love fasicsm. That’s why we voted for it. Despite the copious amount of warnings we received from the proto-fascist’s ex-associates and top military personnel, not to mention unbelievably blatant examples from the proto-fascist himself.

    Maybe we can have Nazi rallies at Madison Square Garden like we did in the 30s. We came pretty close a couple months ago.

          • @frozenspinach@lemmy.ml
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            It’s never going to be resolved.

            I think it was resolved, but then Johnson got elected, pardoned the entire Confederate South including Jefferson Davis, and rolled back reconstruction. And the south benefited from electoral success by counting the slave population toward their number of representatives despite disenfranchising them.

            I don’t have a real end point or pin to this thought but there’s solvable electoral process things that could change the outcomes. The upsetting thing right now is disenchantment in the power of procedures to affect outcome which (1) in some sense is just an unfortunate truth but (2) in another sense is a self fulfilling prophecy as we lose touch of how processes can control outcomes.

          • @Static_Rocket@lemmy.world
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            67 months ago

            Man, saying things like this just further the divide without providing meaningful contributions to any of the current conversations.

            • Tar_Alcaran
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              So, how DO you have a conversation with a group that thinks you or your friends aren’t people?

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                I have to do it all the time. I was born and raised in the south by (relatively) liberal parents. I recognize that some of my neighbors my not be up to the standards of the rest of the country, but (I can’t believe I have to say this out loud) we shouldn’t ostracize a geographic region of people because of social issues.

                Social reform isn’t achieved by running up to someone and saying “You’re an uninformed idiot from a flyover state and what you believe is incorrect.” It’s achieved by saying, “I know you don’t really mean that” when someone says some weird shit and calling them out in a more neutral environment. Unfortunately you have to convince people to be better. It’s too easy to just close yourself off and decline into your own beliefs.

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                  It’s achieved by saying, “I know you don’t really mean that” when someone says some weird shit

                  And what if, as frequently happens, they do in fact mean it?

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            Let the idiots have their racist homophobic dictatorship if that’s what they want.

            I’m sure it would never cause any lasting problems, sharing a substantial land border with an actively malicious enemy nation. /s

            Besides, allowing them to leave because they wanted to continue actions antithetical to our values would be tacitly condoning them. “You can keep on trafficking humans, we just don’t want any part of it” is a pretty cold-blooded response.

            No, letting them go was never a valid option. We just needed to actually finish reconstruction. You can thank John Wilkes Booth for eliminating that.

        • @ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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          The first shot was fired today against the oligarchs. Well, they started it with all the killing of innocent sick people but the first bullet was fired today.

        • @schema@lemmy.world
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          Kinda crazy that Hitler was put in jail for his coup attempt, while Trump evaded any and all consequences from his. Not that it stopped Hitler from rising to power…

          But, while not directly comparable, it’s in a way ironic that Hitler seemingly faced harsher consequences than Trump, even though Hitler’s time in prison wasn’t exactly tough for him.

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            Hitler also did not win a popular election to get elected, nor did the Nazi party win a majority of seats in Parliament. The liberals in power could have formed a coalition government with the communists but refused

    • @daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Letting the morons being ridiculous, accomplish nothing and then slowly throwing all of them to jail, not to create martyrs, was actually the best move.

  • @LesserAbe@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, Americans reading this on lemmy! Why didn’t you stop… something… from happening?? You definitely are the demographic who supports maga and also definitely have the ability to change the results of an election.

    • @FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world
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      The right wing propaganda machine is too powerful. A close friend of mine works a trade and he’s constantly being engaged with right wing talking points. He voted for Trump. He lives with another close friend who has a master’s in history who constantly refutes all the talking points but I doesn’t matter when all his coworkers, his social media and online media are riling him up with this shit.

      At my job I’ve spoken to Hispanics, that can barely speak English, that are die-hard Trump fanatics. Feels like I’m taking crazy pills.

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    “Rest of the world”

    In my limited knowledge, that only recently applies to Brazil. For South Korea, it’s too early to know for sure how stuff will develop.

  • The Menemen
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    South Korean law is apparently very peculiar. Hard to directly transfer this lecture to other countries.

  • @LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world
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    The European retards say things like this as though they themselves haven’t swung far right lately. Pot meet kettle.

    This is just typical America bad copium by the Europoors and internalized hate by American Euroboos.

  • @Dupree878@lemmy.world
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    It’s not even about being underfunded. It’s about forcing all students into public school when they aren’t all on the same level when it comes to intelligence or capability to learn, much less their home support system.

    The schools that spend the least per student have the best scores

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    It will be weird going to vote in 2026 whilst living in a fascist totalitarian dictatorship. Will there only be one choice to vote for?