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Maybe Trump shitting on everything and making Europe realize they don’t need the approval of the US to breathe was the best thing that could have happened to Ukraine.
I think the world is starting to wake up that maybe we don’t actually need America, at all. People will go where the jobs and economy is. America might not be that soon enough.
I was thinking one of the best things that could come out of this is if the US split into multiple countries
I would feel better about this if America didn’t have so many nukes…
I genuinely hope Canada has some operational plan in a drawer somewhere of conducting a commando raid into North Dakota and Montana to neutralize our ICBM command centers.
Won’t help with all the SLBM’s (submarine launched) and B-52 launched nuclear weapons that we have…
Every warhead either secured or destroyed in a collapsing country would be a victory, I think.
im sure they would just let you do it and not retaliate
Yaaa…
Unfortunately the division this time is more rural/urban which would make the logistics of that nearly impossible. If you offered a time for people to move it’d also be vastly lopsided, not to mention things like house prices would crater in some places while skyrocketing in others.
I didn’t necessarily mean best for Americans, any way you put it they’re cooked.
But ya, logistically it’s extremely unlikely, that being said California is already talking about secession. So if it did happen it’d likely be certain states (California, Texas, etc.) And not all of them along state lines.
People don’t usually think about the long term effects of decisions like this when making them, too.
Oh no, house prices, one of the thing that totally works under today’s oligarchy I mean free market
That’s exactly what Russia has wanted since the cold war “ended”. That said, I honestly don’t know how we heal from this. A third of the country is bat shit crazy, and the sane among us are never going to join in their fascism. I think Balkanization is, for better or worse, in our future.
Assuming we don’t all blow ourselves up first.
That’s exactly what Russia has wanted since the cold war “ended”.
No shit. Americans empowered ultranationalist to balkanize the USSR. Have a taste of your own medecine.
… and also Yougoslavia, hence where the name came from
That’s what scares the shit out of me. I’m in a VERY red state, surrounded by red states, in a blue pocket of urban.
And lets be honest, civil war is not off the table, and much of it will be religious. If you’ve lived in the South, the Southern Baptist Church has been wanting a chance to turn the country into a full Christian cult whether you like it or not. And would be happy to get rid of the “Mary worshippers” (Catholics). And weirdly I’m side eyeing the Mormons because I’m actually relatively close to their holy land in Missouri and I’m sure it’s not forgotten the state had Missouri Executive Order 44 (the Mormon Extermination Order). Doesn’t help the Salt Lake of Salt Lake City is disappearing and spreading toxic dust.
It’s gonna be fun!
I’m in a blue city in a blue state, though we have plenty of red. But we’re where the proud boys and other majestically brain-dead champions of mediocrity love to come and cause trouble while the cops protect them. So yeah, it’s all going to suck, and probably sooner than later 😮💨
I think that’s Putin’s plan with Trump. I’m not sure they have something on him more than he’s just a complete moron that will destabilize the USA from inside.
The US coup’ed the USSR in 1990 and the eastern block had nothing to eat for ten years.
BRICS is already eating their lunch. The US is floundering badly.
Yeah, unfortunately I live here, so while this is great for others, it isn’t so great for us.
Those of us who voted for Kamala are victims that unfortunately will have to go down alongside everyone else. Fascist dictatorships have no place in civilized society.
I think we’re in for some rocky times over the next few years, but I think the world will be better off with the USA knocked down a few pegs. They are too large and their general population is too easily swayed by nonsense.
The question is, will the population learn anything by being starved out or will they continue to blame anything but their own hubris?
we are, today, russia 15 years ago. i’m putting in as much work as i can to not be russia as it is now in 15 years.
UK is still coming to terms with Brexit, which happened in 2020, and many will still argue it was a good idea, just badly executed.
And the rest of the world, particularly the EU, needs to realize that if they don’t pull close together they’re going to be squeezed out by large forces in the world. I mean look at the influence it already has as a bloc - if they’d cooperate more closely they could be an equal power to contrast China and the USA. Which is why there are forces working overtime to keep EU nations apart.
I fear we are well on the path as was described by Robert Heinlein a while back:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/"If_This_Goes_On—"
Unfortunately I don’t expect things to go well I’m the states. I really hope I’m wrong in that…
Good question. Germany only “learned” by being forced to change after military defeat (and even so, the AfD has been making progress). That’s not going to happen here - it will have to be the harder way, total societal collapse.
I 100% agree that the changes our former allies are making to be more independent from the US are good for them and probably the world as a whole. I do think the the parallel weakening of the US as a world power is what Putin wants for Trump and his ilk to do. My hope is that the economy is hit so hard and people suffer so much that it spurs change before we’re past the point of relatively short term recovery (5-10 years, not 20+).
We just need a handful of Republican reps to decide that they don’t actually want to give up all of their power to a dictator and his gang, or that maybe they don’t want to be associated with the Nazi party. Just a few change their mind, impeach, and remove. Maybe the first time a member of Congress eats a bullet outside of their residence because someone reached the end of their rope, others will act out of fear. I’ve got my fingers crossed for who I hope it is.
Just one? My list is far longer.
Intentional word choice to not get banned for calling for violence. But yea, I’ve got 3 house reps, a governor, and two senators that I wouldn’t lose sleep over if I saw their names in the obits.
the best thing that could have happened to Ukraine.
And therefore the world
Yeah now when the ukrainian kids will be kidnapped and sent to the frontline they will have brand new FAL.
Less talking and more acting.
It might actually happen more now after the results of the recent German election. They formed a two-way coalition which makes it much easier to do anything.
No coalition has been formed as of today. Germany was supportive of a Ukrainian EU membership before the elections as well. Nothing has changed on a European level after Germany’s elections.
You’re right that it’s not formed yet, however it would be pretty ignorant not to see the pieces on the board. To say that CDU and SPD are being handed an opportunity on a golden platter is an understatement. Not only that, but they both very aware of the direness of their situation. There is simply no world where this coalition isn’t formed, mark my words. Plus, you’re so, so, so wrong about nothing changing in Europe. To not understand the power a two party coalition has versus a three party coalition is like intentionally burying your head in the sand.
Plus, you’re so, so, so wrong about nothing changing in Europe. To not understand the power a two party coalition has versus a three party coalition is like intentionally burying your head in the sand.
The makeup and coalitions in the parliament of the European Union are completely unaffected by the German election.
Not true. Germany and France have the more influence over the other members of the European Union than any other country. To say they have an equal say is like saying the US has an equal say in UN resolution voting. Sure, they have one vote, but many other members will lockstep vote in line with that country for multiple reasons. It’s called soft power… I’m sorry but how is anyone this dense?
I’m sorry but how is anyone this dense?
Yeah… asking myself the same question here.
The position of the German state on EU topics has not changed significantly through this election. The Ampel-Coalition, CDU, and SPD each have roughly the same position on Ukraine. The fact that Germany will most likely have a 2-party coalition going forward does not change ANYTHING in the European Parliament. Those elections took place in June 2024, and will not be held again until 2029.
That’s like saying “Oh, Oregon just had elections for their state government and the makeup of dems vs reps slightly shifted; this is huge for US foreign policy!”
Sure, it can be a mood indicator, but as stated above, the actual positions are more or less the same, and the German state being a bit more swift to act thanks to a 2-party coalition is irrelevant for the day-to-day business and direction of the EU, which is governed by supra-national institutions unaffected by Germany’s elections.
That’s just messaging from leadership on future direction.
Unfortunately, Orban has not magically stopped being Putin’s toadie.
I think Ukraine should definitely join, but right now we desperately need to reform the veto system before taking any more members
Ukraine first and hopefully Canada soon after.
And US, in the end, we need to help them. We should write down a list of reforms for them, they got people shooting at themselves, living in tents along the streets, they’re full of drugs addicted, obesity, low quality education, and so on. Let them apply too
It’s so funny that even the altruistic Americans don’t ever see the benefits of support deals, only that they’re either helping or taking.
It’s funny that in the end it’s a question of oil and gas
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Time to protect yourselves from Putin and his puppet.
Ursula Von Der Leyen, head of the UE commission, have been indicted in multiple case of corruption and is notoriously in bed with the weapons industry and big pharma. She’s as rotten as Putin.
I know the jingoists will hate me, but hey, you’re just some big bombs shill. Germans pretending to care about Ukraine must be the biggest hypocrisy ever lmao. We all know who’s paying for the bombs. This war is just subsidy to thales and airbus.
Will Ukraine take the bait again?
Going to be blocked by multiple countries.
The mark of Ukraine Rada looks so cool
I think you mean the Ukrainian coat of arms. Or the tryzub in general, very common in Ukrainian heraldry and branding.
oh, thanks for the correction!
