• Draconic NEO
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    lemmy.blahaj.zone has a decent amount of women and both their admins are women, it’s not a “women’s space” as one would describe since everyone is welcome there but it’s probably the closest thing one would describe as an instance “by women for women”. I am obligated to mention that it is a queer instance and that many of the women there are either trans themselves or strongly supportive of trans people, and do not tolerate transphobia or anti-LGBT sentiment (including refusal to support LGBTQ people) at all.

    • r.EndTimes
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      22 months ago

      spinster exists but I think its the opposite where its antitrans

      • Draconic NEO
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        102 months ago

        Yeah Spinster is generally considered a hate site, and consequently is very widely defederated, even from general purpose instances like lemmy.world. Also it’s less of a Reddit alternative and more of a Twitter alternative but is technically redundant since you can do everything you did on there on the real thing instead.

    • @Konkyer@lemmy.world
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      As much as I appreciate the community and users at Blahaj, in my personal experience, the moderation was fairly wanting. At least a year or two ago (not sure about now), they tolerated some pretty freakish right-wing people who enabled chasers and other weird shit on their communities.

      • Draconic NEO
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        They certainly do not seem very tolerant of that now, they very commonly ban people for thinly veiled homophobia and transphobia that would normally slide on other sites. They do not even seem mildly willing to tolerate the intolerant.

  • @StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1162 months ago

    Lemmy has an undeniable woman problem that it carried over from Reddit. I’ve lost count of the number of pathetic blokes that I have blocked on here for anti feminism.

    • @AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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      yep it’s pretty horrible. any time gender issues are brought up there’s dozens of comments saying “what about the men” and completely missing the point

      • @bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
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        The response to “what about men” comments is, we’re already talking about men when we talk about misogyny. Misandry and misogyny are the exact same problem, strictly enforced gender roles. If you deviate, you are punished. The men that are caregivers are derided just like the women that refuse to rear children. Every other related paradigm punches down into the people who do not conform. Stoicism in men, histrionics in women.

        Either is a foil for the other and it’s exactly the same bullshit.

      • @TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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        As a guy, I do recognise that men are disadvantaged in many areas and need to be put on equal footing with women-- like courts disproportionately award custody of children to mothers, regardless of how unfit the mother is to be a caregiver. But broadly speaking from my pespective, women are still at more disadvantage. I used to live in a bad part of my city for many years and have had little to no issues. However, it is a different story from women I spoke who got harrased, and another hit on the head. They said they will avoid going to the city ever again. I remember sharing the accounts of these women to other men, and the men were surprised because their experience is the complete opposite. Women are still seen as weak. And in the corporate hierarchy, men (of tall statures) disproportionately make up the board of directors and executive roles.

        • @SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social
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          The court thing is not universally true. I worked in a family law firm for several years, and the practice in the courts here is to start from a baseline of equal custody and placement, and I’ve heard the same about other states. The men who lost out were the ones who wouldn’t fight, because they were convinced that the courts were biased. But hell, in one case, we got full custody and placement for a guy whose son wasn’t even biologically his! (His wife cheated, and he didn’t find out until well after they’d emotionally bonded.)

        • @AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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          yep. the difference is, when women have been disadvantaged they tend to create spaces and pathways to talk about or change it. unfortunately a lot of men tend to isolate, even though they are not alone. then when they see something about a women receiving help through programs created by women for women their feelings of being abandoned by the system come up again. it’s just another way that toxic masculinity hurts everyone. the fix for that is of course feminism, but it’s a pretty massive barrier for most men to accept that.

          • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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            Men don’t always isolate by choice. There’s a large cultural aversion to creating and sustaining male-only spaces, and that aversion comes from all sectors.

            Every college campus has a women’s club but if you try making a men’s club you’ll probably get reprimanded.

                • @AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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                  then I guess I’m not sure what you’re really talking about then.

                  it goes back to my original point though. if you feel there should be those spaces, no one is stopping you from making them. there were a few subreddits I used to browse (maybe it was mensrights or menslib or something similar) that was super respectful and held genuinely helpful and important conversations about the issues men face. trust me, absolutely no one will stop you from making those spaces. if those spaces you’re trying to create aren’t respectful, then yes I imagine people might not like that.

        • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          Man, I have been in SO MANY internet arguments where I am simultaneously arguing against a woman that yes, men have problems, while also arguing against a man that no, those problems are not worse on the whole than women have.

          Back when the whole “bear in the woods” thing was going around misogynists would try to jump in and support me.

          Woman: “all men are rapists”

          Me: “that’s insulting and hurtful and misandrist, and also not even close to true”

          Misogynist: “Yeah! And also women are heartless bitches!”

          Me: “I don’t remember asking YOU a goddamn thing”

          • @AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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            no one is saying all men are rapists. what they are saying is that the statistics are great enough that women have to be on edge around all men. I wish you would take the passion you have for arguing against a generalization and devote it towards making sure the men around you aren’t part of the issue. I say that as a trans women who has seen the issue from both sides. I understand where you’re coming from, truly, but having been socialized male I saw that every man has chances to change the people around them and 99.9% fail to do so.

              • @AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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                you wouldn’t argue if I said all bears are dangerous, even if some will walk right up to you and let you feed them from your hand. again, you should take your anger at this turn of phrase and devote it to something that actually helps your cause.

                and for the love of god, it might be time to analyze where you’re getting the news from. if you actually believe the fox news ass all men are rapists line then I dont know what to tell you, your critical thinking might just be fried.

                • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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                  if you actually believe the fox news ass all men are rapists line

                  I heard that first-hand from women on this site.

                  you wouldn’t argue if I said all bears are dangerous

                  Yeah no shit, that’s the point.

              • @Sonor@lemmy.world
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                No one is saying all men are rapists…

                Proceeds to say ALMOST all men to the level that ALL women are afraid of them.

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      EDIT: Look at the responses to this comment for the proof.

      100%

      It’s really bad and lemmy is really in denial.

      Sexism here is much worse than it was on Reddit.

      It feels like 2008 Reddit here sexism wise, except instead of Ron Paul libertarians tooting their horns everywhere we have heavy tracked vehicle enthusiasts.

      I did hope lemmy having a left leaning culture would help but it does not.

      Try making any post that focuses on situations uniquely or disproportionally experienced by women and you get mostly “everyone has that why think about women” or “what about men” or “men have it worst” responses.

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          Alas I have been shown to be wrong! If not for my womanly ways I would have been the wiser!

        • @mholiv@lemmy.world
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          But the fact that the majority (or perhaps less than half now) of the responses literally prove the point I am trying to make proves my point downvotes or not.

          You have to remember the people who would literally unironically make such a post that proves my post are the densest of the dense.

          Most sexists, while dense, are less dense than a black hole and would not prove my point for me under such a post.

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        Try making any post that focuses on situations uniquely or disproportionally experienced by women and you get mostly “what about men” or “men have it worst” responses.

        that’s kind of just how controversial things are on the internet though.

        Evens shitposting from men will get similar responses from women, it’s just how it is now. Sort of always has been.

        • @mholiv@lemmy.world
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          352 months ago

          THIS. EXACTY THIS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.

          Me: talks about issue disproportionately affecting women.

          Lemmy User: It’s not really about women. Everyone suffers from this.

          • @StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            142 months ago

            Lmao look at that douchebag’s comment history. Its arguably worse that than comment itself. God I wish there was a male loneliness epidemic because these fuckers stopped talking.

            • KillingTimeItself
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              Its arguably worse that than comment itself. God I wish there was a male loneliness epidemic because these fuckers stopped talking.

              oh no funny man on the internet yaps a lot about things.

              I come here for sociological research more than anything.

          • KillingTimeItself
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            yeah bro, it’s the internet, everybody has opinions.

            “yeah so actually i think this is a big problem”

            “yeah evidently it must be a problem, but like, this has always been a problem, and seems to be a consistent problem”

            “YOU’RE LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!!!”

            Lemmy User: It’s not really about women. Everyone suffers from this.

            also to be clear, you are literally straw-manning me here, i’m not saying that “men have to suffer with women having an opinions” nobody cares, it is what it is, i think it’s interesting actually. You’re the one arguing that because people discuss topics that they find personally relevant is somehow “oppressing women”

            I’m not saying you shouldn’t shitpost about that stuff in shitpost threads, by all means do, there’s interesting dialogue in it. I’m just saying this is a common occurrence anywhere on the internet, for any community. Hell go find a community for something as mundane as lego, you’ll find the same shit there.

            Not everybody NEEDS to have their own specific issue that specifically effects them for it to be a valid or real problem. I just think this issue is far broader than most people expect it to be, ironically, i could argue you’re literally behaving the exact same way you claim i am. Because you are, and that’s exactly what’s happening.

            Do i care? No, i don’t it’s the internet do whatever you want.

            • @StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Nah but have you ever considered that the reason that you think that there is a male loneliness epidemic is because nobody wants to hang out with insufferable misogynists?

              • KillingTimeItself
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                no, i don’t think that’s a reasonable answer, because you’re doing the fascist thing of “these people are wrong they need to change, and if they don’t we can justify whatever shitty behavior we want, because we’re morally superior”

                It’s not dissimilar to a lot of nazi rhetoric.

                I think the problem ultimately stems from a disconnect in social development through out society. Feminism has pushed women forward, successfully in a lot of ways, but it has also pulled men back, in a lot of ways, that’s not necessarily bad, but there is now a void there, and there is nothing filling it in, that’s why the manosphere got so big so fast. It’s literally capitalizing on an empty market.

                If you want to solve the manosphere, the solution is simple, we need to fill in the void, and fix this disconnect that’s been happening for probably 75 years now. How we go about that is complicated, and not particularly simple, but i think it’s pretty clearly evident that the problem is aimless/directionless guidance for men especially in the last 20 years. Paired with historically contradictory ideas of manhood. Men are supposed to be strong and protect the weak, but it’s hard to do that when they don’t want it, or need it.

                Once this void is filled in, this shit stops happening, simple as.

        • @mholiv@lemmy.world
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          32 months ago

          I mean if you use the Marxist/Leninist definition of left then obviously not. But I mean left leaning in terms of the societal understanding.

  • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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    712 months ago

    This seems like a very good niche for someone willing to do it. Problematic accounts could get a site-wide ban instead of each woman having to ban someone herself.

      • @LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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        Unfortunately it is niche right now in the fediverse based on the stats. That could change but probably requires a different approach to achieve.

      • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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        I would guess that most women wouldn’t feel the need to be on a woman-focused Lemmy instance for their main / only account. But, some might want an alt account to discuss certain things there.

        • Otter
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          While this won’t be the case with everyone, it was mentioned a few times in a post I made here a long while back

          https://lemmy.ca/post/9443464

          I’m a woman, and make no attempt to hide that fact in my posts. That said, I also don’t personally have much interest in talking about being a woman, so don’t sub to any of those places you linked.

          Over on Reddit I just sort of let people assume I was male a lot of the time, since it wasn’t really relevant to what we were talking about. But from the start on Lemmy I’ve made sure to call out incorrect assumptions, downvote and give a talking to people stereotyping or being misogynistic, etc etc. And the more of us (of all genders) that make that same decision, the better things get

          • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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            That’s pretty brave of you. It’s a lot of work to fight people’s assumptions, and I’m sure it results in harassment.

            But, you’re right that things will never change if women don’t do that. It’s a chicken and egg thing. Nobody wants to be the first to do it, because whoever’s first gets harassed the most. But, if enough people do it, it won’t be abnormal anymore.

            Good luck, and thanks for trying to make women on the internet more normal.

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        Zero women have tried to make one so far regardless of how many would use a new instance. So it can’t be all that in demand.

        I think it naturally would occur if Lemmy grows in size. There’s not many people here to begin with.

      • @Alk@sh.itjust.works
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        It’s not niche being a woman obviously. What’s niche is having a community exclude 50% of the population. Nothing wrong with it, but it is niche.

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      this is a bit of how Blahaj works as I understand it, so it’s a good model - if anything I would think Blahaj might already be poised for this kind of instance-level protection of women

      EDIT:

      one of the Blahaj guidelines does include removing bigotry, including sexism, and would be a candidate for a safe space for women:

      Inclusion and Acceptance

      Embracing inclusion and acceptance means listening when people tell you who they are and what their needs are. It means not telling people that you know their experiences better than they do. It means not gatekeeping experiences of identities of others. It means no bigotry such as racism, sexism, anti LGBT commentary, ableism etc. It means doing your best to ensure that you don’t over-talk the voices of folk who don’t share your privileges.

      That said, the women spaces on Blahaj are mostly for trans women, so a more general women’s community would be nice.

    • @teatimeplease@lemm.ee
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      Lemmy needs block lists users can subscribe to like they can on BlueSky, it would make a huge difference imo.

  • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Youre absolutely welcome to join Blahaj zone. Our wonderful administration team (both of whom are women) bans misogyny whenever it comes around to our communities. The mods for our main communities share a very aggressive moderation policy.

    • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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      They also ban real users instead of the people literally calling their gender “dragonfucker” and “attack helicopter”

      There were a bunch of users who got angry about these users mocking gender expression and then when they told the trolls to fucking stop Ada banned them

      The blahaj admins are trolls

      • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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        I give Ada a lot of credit. In the early days, I had the following interaction:

        TOPIC: Something about sexual/gender preferences, I don’t remember, asking people their preferences

        Me: responds with my preferences (I’m straight cis male, I like women so I’m down with post-transition trans women but pre-transition don’t turn me on)

        Some random user: respectfully asks if I would be willing to date a pre-transition trans man

        Me: I guess, but it probably wouldn’t work due to the fact that what I like about their body, they hate

        Some of those professionally offended people took a misleading screenshot of my response and started screaming about “chasers”.

        Ada did an admin post to the community backing me up and calling those idiots out.

        So unless she’s changed a lot, I don’t think she’s a troll. It would have been easy to go with the mob but she stuck up for me.

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          Still could be TERFS.

          I don’t have any deeper knowledge of that instance, just what I saw in all, so I don’t want to put anything on them. That thought just came across reading your comment.

          I have made a mental remark in the past that the posts and users on this instance are better treated from afar, though.

          • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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            It’s pretty harsh to just casually suggest that a person be a TERF without any specific evidence.

      • @sudo@programming.dev
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        The pronoun was just “drag”. PJ is the one who kept calling them “dragonfucker”. You can go read dragonriders comments instead of just repeating gossip.

          • @sudo@programming.dev
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            They were already banned for other trolling behavior, just not because they used neopronouns. Please get an actual bearing on reality.

            • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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              Sorry I’m not allowed to use that space because I called a troll a troll before the Admins felt like doing their fucking jobs.

              I’m not going back now, blahaj is a cess pool controlled by trolls.

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        “dragonfucker” and “attack helicopter”

        i mean, if they’re doing it as a haha funny, i see no harm, but if they’re also being assholes, i think that takes precedent. You aren’t legally required to fill in your gender tagging appropriately so.

        • Like the wind...
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          They are an asshole though, a serial pot stirring drama seeking troll that gets people banned for reacting to their ragebait. Yeah I identify as a refurbished ebike and you must relearn English to refer to me, and you only rather not because you agree with literal genocide. Funny!

        • @boonhet@lemm.ee
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          I haven’t seen the attack helicopter and the joke is pretty damn old tbh, but drag at least is/was kinda funny. Drag’s profile specified that drag’s pronoun is “drag” in not just third, but also first and second person, which is an interesting concept. Drag also stayed in character in drag’s posts. Drag didn’t ever really bother people with the whole thing IMO.

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            yeah, it’s a dead beat joke, it’s come around to the point now where you can do it ironically and nobody cares. Though i guess you could still just be an asshole at that point lmao.

    • katy ✨
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      also our wonderful admin kaity did what the lemmy devs couldn’t and nuked the dm spam :)

      • @StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        It really seems like instance admins tend to do a much better job with a lot of stuff on here than the core devs. Its a shame that forking would take as much work as it would.

        • @AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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          well some of the devs are too busy arguing over which authoritarian boot tastes the best, all under the guide of leftism, so yeah I imagine the bar isn’t exactly high

    • Lemminary
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      Pfft, I’d say overly aggressive to a fault. It’s not a good thing when they’re banning people for a passing comment where the worst offence is “gatekeeping” rather than something that matters.

    • Realitätsverlust
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      Probably the … fourth-worst well known instance. Idk if that’s a good suggestion.

    • @Konkyer@lemmy.world
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      As much as I appreciate the community and users, there are (or at least were) serious moderation problems on Blahaj, I did not feel safe there when I tried it a year or two ago.

      • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I definitely cannot agree. I encourage anyone who has any issues with moderation to make a post in the Blahaj meta community. Ada and Kaity have been spectacular and have responded to every issue I have come across. There are limits, they can’t preemptively prevent any kind of moderation issue but they respond quickly.

  • @Eiri@lemmy.ca
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    But like what even is a social media for women? I wasn’t aware the ones we currently have were for men

    • @Tonuka@feddit.org
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      reddit has /r/TwoXChromosomes which is one of my favorite subs. It’s a general womens subreddit, and though it obviously leans feminist it’s not its main purpose. It welcomes all genders, but remains a womens space.

      The fediverse could really use that energy.

        • @Genius@lemmy.zip
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          92 months ago

          Damn women appropriating witchdom. Excluding boywitches just reaffirms the patriarchy’s gendering of magic. It’s re-inventing the same gender roles.

          • @Ashtear@lemm.ee
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            Neither the WvP subreddit nor the Discord excludes men from identifying as witches or from participating in discussions.

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                Woman-centered is not an absolute. One does not have to be part of a single characteristic of a group to have a stake in it, to be an ally, an advocate, a partner, a family member, among countless other scenarios.

                I would suggest reading up on intersectionality.

                By the way, all of this is covered in the subreddit sidebar, including in an FAQ in the wiki.

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            I’m sorry, what?

            It’s women-centered because it’s “against patriarchy”… not because it’s witchy. And they are trans & queer inclusive as well.

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              I think it would be even more against patriarchy if it was enby centered. They should change that.

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                You need to stay away from feminism and enby activism entirely until you’ve humbled yourself and seriously sat with how problematic this take is.

                You’re not helping anybody with that. Least of all enbies/trans people. And not just because it makes us look bad either, though that’s certainly part of it.

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                  I don’t know how problematic this take is, and since you can’t explain how it is, I’m convinced you don’t either. You’re just having an emotional reaction to deviation from the gender binary’s norms, which construct womanhood as the opposite of manhood.

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        Yeah but thats a subreddit not REDDIT itself, you can similarly start a /c/TwoX on just about any Lemmy instance.

        • @JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world
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          While I do agree with what you’re saying, I actually think a “by women for women” instance has a slightly different impact than a “by women for women” community. There are definitely pros and cons for both, though

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        We used to have an equivalent on our instance, but it was constantly flooded with reply-bros and trans people complaining about the name, so we archived it as no women was willing to moderate it (for understandable reasons).

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        I wondered if they made the jump over here. Guess not, sadly. Reading that sub has made me a better man, because it offers some pretty harsh critiques of male behavior.

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      Its all technically ran by trans women which is mildly interesting, like the mods of 2x and the others on reddit and here I think

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    Most of the fediverse is male, and there’s a significant trans woman space, but there’s no spaces that really cater to cis women or to trans men specifically that I’ve seen.

    And yes, I think it’s reasonable to look for a space that is strongly (though not exclusively) cis-woman, in the same way that a Protestant would feel out of place in a Catholic community, even though they’re all Christian. I imagine most cis women feel the same way as I (a cis man) feel when going to blahaj - like a friendly, allied visitor in a foreign land.

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        blahaj.zone is a great one I’ve found. Extremely inclusive, brooks absolutely no bullshit from bad faith actors.

        Is also very very queer tho JSYK

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          Except the Drag person, obvious troll they keep around.

              • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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                Dragonfucker isn’t a gender, you enabling trolls makes LGBTQ spaces worse for people with real gender identities that experience real discrimination in the real world.

                I bet you feel good when the people you hate get silenced though, like a drug addict chasing dopamine.

                • 🦄🦄🦄
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                  You don’t get to decide what is and what isn’t a real identity :) if that makes you mad, the ban was justified just for that,

          • @Taleya@aussie.zone
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            People are fucking weird about drag.

            Honestly there are far more worthy things to get pissed about this day and age, open a window

            • Yeather
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              I just blocked them and moved on. It’s just insane it took so long for the admins to finally ban them.

      • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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        Either can describe a bar that throws out Nazis or a Nazi bar, depending on perspective.

          • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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            Nah I’m demanding clarity. A clear question “Do you mean excluding TERFs or excluding women” and the answer is “I want to be inclusive”. It may not be meant as such, and I’m definitely not implying that it was, but that’s exactly how a TERF would evade questioning.

            A clear “Fuck TERFs” would have provided plenty of clarity, and been much shorter. Also, it would have said “Fuck TERFs”.

            • @LwL@lemmy.world
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              Idk man “exclusionary” is literally part of terf I don’t think there’s much ambiguity there. Fuck terfs though.

              • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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                They’re also complaining about “women being excluded from women’s spaces by agents of the patriarchy posing as women”. They’re also not necessarily using “TERF” as a label. They’re using typical fascist-style “words mean whatever we want them to mean in the moment” type of stuff, hiding clear-cut positions behind pretend nuance, hence why I favour clarity.

  • @MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social
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    The comments here make me very disappointed in our little corner of the internet. If anyone wants this but doesn’t know how, neither do I but I’d be happy help.

    • @i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I am disappointed but not surprised. The attitude of men here reminds me a lot of default subs in Reddit. People tend to be more civil, but there is so much “but what about men?” when talking about women’s issues or belittling women still. Business as usual on the Internet, but I can see why it would cause women to avoid Lemmy.

      I haven’t been back to Reddit, but it makes me miss the small niches where I didn’t see that as often.

      • @pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I’ve said it many times before and I’ll say it again, gender relations here are worse than they were on reddit when I stopped using it.

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          It’s a more niche “back room” kind of forum, so there are less casual browsers and more technerds here, which makes it predominantly male for a lot of reasons that require a whole other discussion to analyse, but it’s exactly like when reddit was a niche “back room” website gaining popularity.

          Lets not forget when reddit started, it was absolute chaos, some of the very worst communities imaginable where at home there, and the userbase RAGED every time some pedo or hate sub got purged. But they did get purged, and it became welcoming for a more diverse group of users to participate in. (Until the bot nation attacked)

        • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          I mean there’s like 3 women on lemmy, and 2 of em are trans. I don’t think there really ARE any gender relations here.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          i wonder if it’s not just worse on lemmy, but gotten worse over time, with the manosphere shit and all it’s relevant problems, neither feminism nor the manosphere, or traditional male gender role has really addressed this issue comprehensively, and we’re starting to see pushback from this issue in real life now, men are enrolling into college less than women, they do worse in most environments, and also are generally worse when it comes to mental health.

          I wonder if we just need like a dedicated “social issues space” where people can talk about this stuff.

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        womans only spaces (popping up because of male dominated spaces) do lead to male only spaces but who cares, ppl that want to be in those spaces can stay there idrc, they dont want my input I dont want theirs

        • @i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Yeah, it’s natural to have spaces that aren’t for me. It’s fine. I really just have an issue with spaces where I am supposedly welcome to be hostile towards me.

    • @frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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      I think there’s a few tutorials about how to set up your own lemmy instance. If so compelled; go for it! If you have any sort of IT background it’ll probably be pretty easy.

  • Ulrich
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    Pardon my ignorance but what would be the point of that? You can sign up on any instance and participate in any women’s communities. It’s not like there’s any way to verify the user’s gender anyway.

    • @Genius@lemmy.zip
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      A community like that would hopefully ban misogynists who go unbanned on other communities.

      • Ulrich
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        “Community” is the operative word there. OP is asking about an instance.

    • @pseudo@jlai.lu
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      Local feed I guess. I wouldn’t trade my french local feed to another despite the abillity to subscribe to the community that made it.

      • Coelacanth
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        Local feed is one of the best parts of Lemmy conceptually and a very clear indicator that the intended behaviour for users is to sign up to smaller insurances related to their location or otherwise significant individual interests.

      • Ulrich
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        Couldn’t you sign up on another instance and still subscribe to all the same communities?

        • @pseudo@jlai.lu
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          It would only work if I don’t subscribe to any other instances. That’s a bad tradeoff.

          The fediverse needs a tool to surf other instances local feed cause that’s a common issue for both the threadiverse and twittoverse. Soon, we may have enough theme-oriented PixelFed instances for them to have the same issue. I believe PieFed multicommunity feeds to be the best way to tackle it so far but that’s not even a good solution.

    • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      You really don’t see the benefit to a group of similar people to have a space focused on them, their wants and needs and daily lives? A community of people like them? It’s one of the most fundamental human desires.

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      with enough admin and moderation you could circle jerk your way into a “woman positive” or “woman friendly space” which would be the idea.

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    beehaw.org aspire to be nice, friendly diverse and safe. But they’re more towards nice, not women. And we have lemmy.blahaj.zone for queer folks. To my knowledge, there isn’t a place aimed towards women. Maybe heehaw is the closest… Still not really a fit.

    You could go ahead and also ask in some of the women communities, see how they get along here on the Fediverse.

  • FundMECFS
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    Lemmy,blahaj,zone is run by Ada, who is a woman

    • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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      I wish I could recommend blahaj, there are a lot of trolls in the space that the admins have successfully been guilted into supporting.

        • ZeroOne
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          I rememebered Blahaj people accusing Lemmy instances of being misogynists left & right without any evidence

          & were censoring anyone, just because they asked for evidence.

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              The insinuation here is the instance behaves like a raging misandrist, nuff said.

  • @ZeffSyde@lemmy.world
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    I want there to be a witchesvspatreiarchy here, but I’m a dude and it’d be messed up if I started it.

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    This idea is pretty cool, i hope they will succeed to achieve that. Imo, we lack diversity on the forumverse except maybe mastodon.

    It would provide an additional security layer, another governance. They could also benefit a lot from local community and can check vote, email, ip…Other have already mentionned good example with blahaj, beehaw…

    On the other hand, it will render the instance more visible.

    On my main instance, jlai.lu, i think we don’t manage well sexist speech. They are moderated, we do our best to explain to our users what’s wrong and slowly change them but we don’t have the same sensibility as women.

    Men explaining women…So we probably missed lot things.