• @N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1492 months ago

    What exactly do LGBT issues have to do with trade policy? Why is this on the table? Is there supposed to be some big gay conspiracy to devalue currency or something? It’s all so idiotic.

    • @floo@retrolemmy.com
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      5: Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

      12: Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”

      Umberto Eco’s List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism

    • @tal@lemmy.today
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      102 months ago

      I’d guess that it’s probably broader than LGBT issues, if they’re taking — and the article is not clear on this, and the source anonymous — issue with hate speech laws in general.

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      It’s an attempt to normalize the fear/hate of LGBTQ+ people on an international level. As long as the administration continues to constantly press this issue, much like the “mere exposure” advertising effect, it doesn’t matter if people believe it nor not, the more times people hear a thing, the more likely they are to adopt that belief or feeling, even to a tiny degree.

      That tiny degree, when continually pressed, when continually exposed, over large populations, influences a large number of people.

      As long as they have an enemy group they can pin their problems on, they will keep going and keep ramping up the atrocities until we see mass graves. Again. (Seriously, how many times do we have to see mass graves in our nations before we decide that our leadership needs to be thrown down a well.)

      If you guys care, please don’t just rant on Lemmy or other internet spaces. Go talk to your family members. Talk to your friends. If you don’t have friends, GO MAKE FRIENDS. GO MAKE ENEMIES. Our anti-social, paranoid, self-absorbed internet shut-in culture is making all of this tragedy possible.

      Guys, you HAVE to push through those terrifying feelings of engaging with strangers. You HAVE to get social again. We don’t win this behind keyboards.

  • MonsterMonster
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    722 months ago

    The very Un-American US President Trump and his administration are trying to Americanise the rest of the world.

    Fuck. Right. Off.

  • Guy Ingonito
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    722 months ago

    Yeah they also told the UK they’d get a totally sweet trade deal if they did a Brexit, and that deal never materialized, did it?

    Don’t fall for their shit twice. That’s America’s problem - falling for it over and over again.

  • @adarza@lemmy.ca
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    672 months ago

    “No free speech, no deal. It is as simple as that,”

    did i warp into the onion without realizing?

    • @floofloof@lemmy.ca
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      242 months ago

      Look at all that free speech the USA has, where people are being disappeared to an overseas concentration camp for saying genocide is wrong, or having the FBI investigate them for speaking critically about Trump, or imprisoned at the border for criticizing him online. Whereas in the UK, these days you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you’re English, don’t you?

    • @nogooduser@lemmy.world
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      212 months ago

      “No free speech, no deal. It is as simple as that,”

      So he’s going to push this condition onto everyone that they deal with right? Saudi Arabia and Israel for example.

      • @ProvableGecko@lemmy.world
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        72 months ago

        Israel is USA, and SA can do whatever the fuck they want as long as they pay up (i.e. produce oil, buy weapons, whatever).

      • @aesthelete@lemmy.world
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        32 months ago

        This is the point of Trump dealing with the UK over the EU. They’re more isolated since Brexit and therefore more easily intimidated.

        Saudi Arabia and Israel both already have the type of freeze peach this fascist desires.

      • @MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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        32 months ago

        Putin needs Saudi Arabia to not start an oil price war, which Russia would loose.

        The US support of Israel is making the US less popular around the world.

  • Jack
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    522 months ago

    We must throw our people under the bus, and that will allow us to lick some US boots!

        • Twig
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          62 months ago

          Could he individually have done anything about that court ruling?

          • @djsp@feddit.org
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            122 months ago

            I think what @Naich@lemmings.world means is that the recent UK Supreme Court ruling gives some cover to Starmer, allowing him to pin some of the dissatisfaction with his eventual acquiescence to US pressure on the judiciary (even though Labour, being in control of the legislature, could fix the laws instead of washing their hands…).

  • @takeda@lemm.ee
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    452 months ago

    IMO, everyone in UK should be protesting and demanding to rejoin EU. Russia successfully was able to make UK withdraw through disinformation, and this only made UK weaker.

    • @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Remember Cambridge Analitica, most of whose money came from wealthy Americans?

      Maybe they were or maybe they weren’t in cahoots with Russia, but sure as hell it was the very same members of the American “elites” who supported Trump’s rise who also bought Brexit.

      Britain’s careless openness to American influence makes it easy for Americans to play it like a fiddle.

      • @takeda@lemm.ee
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        12 months ago

        Take a look at content of this book (published in 1997): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics#Content

        It was unthinkable that brexit would happen back then. But a lot of things described happened, because Putin is following this plan.

        War in 2022 kind of put things sideways, but now it’s resuming with trump.

        Those oligarchs have no loyalty to the countries they live in, they do whatever makes them richer. They are the most bribeable people.

  • Hegar
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    Destroying the transatlantic alliance is probably the main goal of putin’s US regime.

    Embolden the UK’s right wing parties who are largely putinists or deliver yet another blow to transatlantic relations. Yet another example of trump delivering a win-win for putin that’s a lose-lose for the US.

  • @wewbull@feddit.uk
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    302 months ago

    I don’t like the hate speech laws because I think they can be abused to include far too much, however NO LAW SHOULD BE CHANGED IN THE UK IN THE PERSUIT OF TRADE WITH THIS CUNT.

    He can fuck right off.

  • KSP Atlas
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    212 months ago

    Being in Scotland, it hurts to think how close we were to being able to avoid this shit

    • @sicarius@lemmy.world
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      52 months ago

      It hurts so much. I hope the people who voted no are looking at what’s happening and thinking “oops” I was wrong. But that’s not likely.

  • Zier
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    The fucking jesus freaks are behind all the anti-diversity. They can fuck right off! What a sick fucking hate cult they are in.