Bullies melt when faced with even the tiniest bit of resistance. Because they are fucking cowards. All bullies are fucking cowards.
They know what they’re doing is illegal, and they only get away with it because some people let them. Don’t be one of those people. When you see your rights being violated, resist! When you see the rights of others being violated, resist then too!
The actions of the manager of the restaurant Chang Chang were not only American, they were patriotic.
Yep. The Germans coined a nice term, critically: Vorauseilender Gehorsam - pre-emptive obedience. Don’t do it.
“Fascism” is not a German word. It’s an Italian word. Fascism started in Italy before it started in Germany and became something much worse.
Nowhere did they say “fascism” is a German word.
Wow, your brain is more broken than most
A comical level of projection.
How did you manage to misinterpret such a short comment so badly? Go reread it. Seriously. You’ll see just how idiotic your response here is
I know it’s not what you’re saying, probably, but just to be clear: It wasn’t a good thing going just fine until the Germans took it too far. It sucked in Italy, too, and is always bad.
Well, I’m definitely gonna follow you under “wants to be a Nazi and think Nazis are awesome”.
Congratulations
You’re a loony.
The black knight always triumphs!
I suspect you might actually have some sort of cognitive impairment causing you to not understand several things you have responded to in this thread. Have you ever been tested for dyslexia?
Oof. That reading comprehension. American public school? Flyover state?
I am not to blame if you can’t understand my response.
Nah, your “teachers” are.
Save the world, hurt a bully today!
Bullies always hurt. That’s why they do what they do.
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Know your rights!
Isn’t this the exact reason Americans have so many guns, to oppose tyranny at the hands of the state? Funny how the most vehemently anti-gun control people are the same ones clapping and cheering as government thugs bundle people into detention centers without warrants.
Spoiler: They do need a warrant.
Also “you are tresspassed” is a magical phrase that turns ICE agents into criminals and armed ICE agents into armed criminals that you can pull a weapon on.
Funnily enough the “second amendment” crowd has been completely silent about all this shit. But people really have to use those stand your ground laws.
I’ve given up on humanity after the racist Karen in Minneapolis raised a shitload of money off of a Christian based fundraising website while pretending to be the victim of calling a 5 year old racial slurs.
Like we have a problem. Society preinternet didn’t have this problem, society after internet didn’t have this problem you could be called a dick with no recourse.
Once society figured out you can just make money on being a racist asshole and be crowd funded for it, that’s when society went to shit
I saw that headline a few days ago. Was that all it took to make you give up on humanity? Trying to understand.
It’s a bunch of things combined but that just pushed me over the edge.
Understood. It’s a shame to lose you at the start of the fight, but get what you need to hang on and recover.
One strategy I’ve found helpful is taking little breaks from political news and spending time with those around you. It’s been a good antidote for the despair of the news cycle.
And if you need someone to talk to I’m here.
I’ve taken a big step back from most apps and social media in general, unless I’m playing Xbox online for 2 hours after 10p’m hardly using the Internet for anything else. .
Plus just got done with daughters club volleyball, now it’s onto softball season… working with her on pitching have to use a lot of YouTube for that because I don’t know how to pitch fast softball. So we’re both sort of learning as we go.
She’s got a Canon for a arm. Like has made my hand hurt on multiple occasions from 40 feet for only being 11. Ive been trying to teach accuracy over speed and a actual coach said not to do that. If they have natural speed. Let them pitch fast and ccuracy will come later.
She’s improved. I’d say 3/10 are strikes, 5/10 will probably get someone to swing at. The other two watch your shins or head 😅. Or in my case sitting on a 5 gallon bucket, the family jewelry. Have had a few close calls
Sorry for delay. Had to take care of a few things offline.
step back from social media
That’s pretty huge. Everyone I’ve known who did that said it improved their life and mental health in lots of ways, and the harder their exit the more enthusiastic they were. Tried it myself back in 2012, and stuff probably wasn’t even as bad back then, but deleting google facebook twitter snap etc really did help me build better relationships and enjoy life more. I still text/chat people and use some forums like lemmy but never have to worry about an algorithm trying to fuck with my head lol
daughter mobile softball turret
That is wonderful! While I don’t have kids, I know the feeling of helping young people discover things they’re good at and it’s deeply gratifying. Really cool that you’re there to practice with her too. Having a parent who’s there isn’t a given yet helps so much with basically everything.
3/10 strikes 5/10 swing
From what I understand of baseball rules, that would mean like 8/10 over the plate or close enough for the hitter to attempt? 80% success sounds damn good for a new player. Is it possible she has some natural athleticism and/or hand-eye coordination?
learning together
Ditto re: softball knowledge; could only guess where to begin. Did see a few rounds of a softball game at a pub once and noticed the pitcher would deliberately bounce the ball, which I thought wasn’t a thing in regular baseball. Is this something pitchers in her league practice, like a type of pitch?
Sounds like you know where to seek respite!
I bet the summer weather will be welcomed by you and yours, yeah?
Our species is trash - it has nothing to do with the news cycle. There are just too many fucking stupid people that are being allowed to shit out legions of children.
I sincerely wish there was a virus that killed people who were “too dumb.” It’d be much more peaceful…
#ThanosWasOntoSomething
#HeWasntAndYouKnowIt
The solution to ignorance is knowledge, not eugenics. Also get your ass into therapy before hate consumes you.
I’m not a big 2A guy, but I’m more than well armed and practiced, and I haven’t shut up about shooting anyone attempting these kidnappings.
Most of the second amendment crowd have a “daddy” fetish and want to be ruled by a strongman figure. Mostly cuckish cowards
That and the 2a isn’t necessary for resistance. Been done in places without it obviously.
And yes, seems most of them seem quite happy with the current situation. Funny that.
Spoiler: They do need a warrant.
Oh yes, they do. Absolutely. They may do whatever they were gonna do, regardless, but standing up for your own rights and the rights of others helps to guarantee them all the way out.
And, sometimes, all it takes is someone willing to stand up and cry the actions of the state
Yeah but in this county that i reside in only law enforcement can trespass someone.
And they likely won’t.
Only law enforcement can enforce the trespass. But you are trespassed when informed by a person with authority over the property that your presence is not welcome there. If they fail to leave, you can follow up in the courts.
Owner / caretaker of any property can trespass anyone on their property. Law enforcement included. Which is why they need a warrant.
Hmm, I would check your local law. That is not how it generally works. If someone is on your property and you tell them to leave and that they are trespassed, then they have to leave. Failure to leave is almost always a crime in progress.
Several restaurants pushed back on Tuesday. Here’s an actual article instead of a tweet:
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/05/06/ice-agents-are-targeting-dc-restaurants/
Yeah, also it looks like the bird site OP has a substack newsletter with a post that goes into a bit more detail (but reports basically the same thing as that Washingtonian article) - https://migrantinsider.com/p/ice-in-dc-restaurants-brace-for-friday (arc)
At some point, someone is going to fire the first shot. Then it’s open season on ICE agents. And you know what? I’m okay with that.
I do wonder how all the “violence is never the answer” folks will go if it comes to that. I think a lot of them would side with ICE, sadly.
Personally, I won’t be upset if a would-be nazi meets an abrupt end to their career.
The colonies didn’t resort to violence when unfairly taxed, they just offered a tea party.
Ooops. Sounds like you accidentally picked up a Texas MAGA “history” book? Or maybe one covering the 18th century or before?
Read some news.
Countries simply taking land they want, killing millions, and getting away with it is still a thing.Or maybe one covering the 18th century or before?
Have you ever heard about the WW2?
You’re absolutely right with thinking they’ll stick with ICE. People who value Status Quo over all else (“it hurts my head thinking about the world changing, why can’t everything just stay the same???”) always have and always will capitulate to Fascist regimes, because it removes the need for critical thought and the obligation to stand for anything. Moderates will be the death of us if we let them.
Violence is not the answer. Violence is the question. And the answer is “Yes”
That reads like a Cave Johnson quote.
when life asks you if violence is the answer, you BURN THEIR HOUSE DOWN with the LEMON BOMBS‼️‼️
Yes! He’s saying what we’re all thinking!
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“When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.” Thomas Jefferson
He didn’t ever say that, actually. It was likely first said by an activist in New Zealand https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jefferson-injustice-resistance-quote/
Okay, but he also said “My 14 year old half-sister looks even better naked”. So…
Oh boy, an ad hominem fallacy in the wild, it’s been a whole 5 seconds since I saw one!
Thomas Jefferson
Damn hack journalists. It was popularised by Petra Kelly (page 768, 82 in pdf) founding member of the German Greens:
But when the laws of the state are in open rebellion against divine law, … then resistance is a duty, but obedience is a crime.
…she was dishing it out with the CDU that’s why she quoted a Pope, in particular Pope Leo XIII, in 1890:
- But, if the laws of the State are manifestly at variance with the divine law, containing enactments hurtful to the Church, or conveying injunctions adverse to the duties imposed by religion, or if they violate in the person of the supreme Pontiff the authority of Jesus Christ, then, truly, to resist becomes a positive duty, to obey, a crime
It then percolated through general Green-adjacent political spheres as a slogan and became “Wenn Unrecht zu Recht wird, dann wird Widerstand zur Pflicht”, “When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty”, losing the “and obedience a crime” part. Usually attributed to Brecht, who probably wouldn’t mind, totally something he’d say. “I can’t eat enough for as much as I want to barf” isn’t Brecht, either, it’s Dürrenmatt. Actual Brecht quotes include “Who does not know the truth is just an idiot, but who knows the truth and calls it a lie is a criminal” as well as “First comes fodder, then morals”. Also, movie recommendation.
These guys probably weren’t even ICE. At this point, treat it like an attempted kidnapping, or better yet, an attempted ‘robbing’ of your employees, and give them a free sample of buckshot.
The footage and other complaints I’ve seen it could be both. Thugs either way.
From the set up, I’d have expected the agents to have unleashed whatever was in that manila folder. You’d think it was important if it was one of the only things they brought in.
Now I’m thinking it was less ICE agents carrying a warrant and more “militia leader bought a pack of folders at Staples” and told his racist minions a folder will get you through doors like wearing hi-vis or a ladder will.
How do you wear a ladder?
Very carefully.
It was just to fan away the fentanyl particles in the air
I don’t think legitimate ICE agents would have backed down. Sounds like an attempted kidnapping…
That’s the problem when they never or rarely properly identify themselves. You can never truly know if they are to be believed.
They more than likely were with ICE. The agency has massively and rapidly expanded its enforcement personnel, and has done so in a haphazard way that has (deliberately) not given them an opportunity to properly train personnel up on procedures and rules and stuff. Nobody who wants to do good in the world is going to work for ICE right now. So, they’ve basically just done a presto gestapo, and a lot of times these guys really are just out there doing the sloppiest, shittiest, and most bully-like law enforcement you could possibly conceive of. I know where I’m posting this, I know what we all generally think of cops here, the current state of ice is about ten rungs down from that. We’re talking real amateur hour shit, and they’ll get away with it if people let them.
The good news is that apparently none of these fucking jokers seem to know or care how to cross t’s and dot i’s. You absolutely can send them packing, just like these folks did, and if they don’t leave, then call your local sheriff’s office or police dept. This is really dependent on your area, metro PD tend to be stocked full of major league assholes, but my local PD is actually pretty chill and has a good working relationship with the community; in my experience, sheriff’s deputies tend to be people who got into law enforcement because they’re true believers in the ideals of law enforcement (protecting life and property, accountability, etc) and constitutional justice, not because they want to flex on minorities. YMMV.
But if you think you can trust one of your local law enforcement agencies, absolutely call up 911 and tell them that you’ve got some people here that are trespassing (they’ve been told to leave and aren’t), seem to be impersonating law enforcement (since they won’t provide proof of ID), and you’re worried that they’re trying to kidnap someone, that you think these people are an imminent threat to your life or someone else’s. That’ll generally get the cops out there in a hurry, and they will likely be not very happy at all that ICE is out here putting on a fucking circus. That, or the agents will hear you and fucking split so that they don’t get clowned on by local law enforcement. There have been plenty of instances of federal agents getting arrested while fucking around; mind you, they’re almost never charged, but nobody walks away from that particularly happy.
Make sure your local hasn’t agreed to enforce for ICE first. https://themarkup.org/tools/2025/04/16/law-enforcement-ice-cooperation-tracker
Sound advice. I know that after a bunch of locals voiced concern about it, our chief said that they are absolutely not working with ICE, and their duty is to serving the whole community first and foremost.
That’s great, I hope most jurisdictions bring that same energy.
Me too. We’ve got a pretty good department here, and I hope we can keep it that way.
Great advice. And anyone in authority at a place of employment that might be targeted should know exactly how they intend to respond, meaning they must plan for it. As soon as the thugs make themselves known, execute the plan - get one person on 911 doing what you said, while another confronts them directly to try to force them to leave.
I wonder if there are any resources giving concrete advice on what to do in these scenarios? Kind of like how we have great standard advice from various law professionals, etc., about what to do and not do when detained by police.
Edit to add: even if you expect the local PD to come down against your side, it’s probably still a good idea to call them in. The resulting time and chaos as they get things sorted out may be just enough to do something useful for the vulnerable person needing help. Remember, once that person is in the custody of the gestapo, it’s fucking over, their life is wrecked at best. See only what happened to Kilmar Abrego Garcia for proof.
That’s one thing my campus has done decently–I know that to do if ICE shows up.
- they’re not allowed to just walk in to non-public areas
- we call campus police (whose main jobs seems to be keeping students safe and keeping campus out of the news). Annoyingly, I work in a public building (the library) but my office is private, big, and has a lock on the door. I’m well stocked up in case of a shelter-in-place situation and I’m happy to wait until campus police shows up.
Fuck yeah, stay strong in the struggle my friend!
Thanks. It helps that I’m white enough I glow in the dark. My big worry is that many of my students might be first- and second-generation immigrants from south of the USA and I don’t want them to have to deal with this bullshit.
(I say “might be” because I don’t know anyone’s immigration status and even if I did no I don’t.)
Cheers! And hard agree, those of us with some amount of demographic plot armor, so to speak, gotta deploy that shit lol
I think we will need a phone app that modifies the emergency function:
1: When the police are called, the recording function turns on. 2: The ACLU/legal services of choice are given the recording, live, without interfering with the current call. 3: ICE Spotting apps are given your current location, as are designated people in your contact list.
In effect, this allows you to uphold your legal rights, since ICE would likely break your phone when they begin trafficking people, which may include you. Plus, people in the area might be alerted to the presence of ICE, and begin gathering. We should use the bee’s approach and swarm the bastards. Heat is the great weakness of ICE and bullies alike.
This is a fantastic idea. To be clear, anyone working on such a thing will almost certainly gain the administration’s attention, which of course is extremely dangerous. But yes, this should exist!
there is no such thing as a “legitimate ice agent” ;)
I doubt they were actually ICE either.
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This is how the brownshirts operated. Just thugs, power trippin’, and attracting the absolute worst people who WANT to wear balaclavas and have the excuse to be intimidating assholes and have the power to bundle people into vans (or railcars).
What are the odds it was a couple magats pretending to be ICE to fuck with immigrants or people the think are immigrants.
Depressingly high.
But also…depressingly low. The fact that they couldve been actual govt officials behaving this way is…worse?
Odds are pretty damn good, I’d say.
Still, it’s a distinction barely worth making. Garden varity pigs doing this shit are equally as unjust as brand name Pigs doing it.
They sell fake ICE federal agent jackets too. the Maga people pretending to be ICE could at least have the dignity to spend the 28 bucks on an ice jacket. Trying to get by with just a walkie talkie and a plain manila folder with no documents in it is a disappointing performance. They sell FBI, ATF and police ones too.
https://printerval.com/ice-federal-agent-3d-hoodies-p587374667
By all means, FIGHT THESE PEOPLE. You owe them nothing.
Incredible to see this kind of solidarity, tbh.
Behold, the power of “No.”
I love to see it.
It is exactly the same power that Trump uses: the willingness to assert yourself. We need more people to not comply, especially in advance.
Seems like a good time to remember that the nazi secret police were formed out of existing law enforcement agencies.
So how long until real criminals start following suit and impersonating undercover ICE agents? Not like there’s much distinction between either “career” now, is there?
And then how long until ICE agents start showing up with holes on the ground because property owners “thought” they were real street thugs trying to rob them? Is there even a way to tell the difference? ~wink wink~
How long? Negative three months, apparently: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning/index.html
They’d be caught out too quickly.
“Hey, wait a second! Yeah, you’re holding me at gunpoint but you’re asking me to put the money in the bag? But real ICE would have just kidnapped me!”
Criminals are not stupid and generally have no political leanings. This is already happening.
More of this, please. Warrant or not, fuck ICE.
