I’ve heard these described as a “legally acceptable way of filtering out people with autism” and man I’ve not seen them the same way since.
yep when I applied to work at target a few years ago, there should have been absolutely no reason for them to not consider me but I took that thiny veiled screening test and wow I suddenly don’t get a response.
fuck corpos man
That explains a LOT.
Not really, in this case the more literally you read the question the better. It asks what responsibility you acquire when you have a job not why you got the job.
It’s not about that. It’s because people with autism rarely have a first instinct to give fake answers custom made exactly for the person telling you to fill it out like nd ppl do
Ppl with autism have this honesty instinct and that is prone to be rather inconvenient in life. Some are very idealistic some are desperate to be accepted as nd and overdo the ‚lying selfish’ part and become big assholes
Obviously we all know we are here for ourselves but we have to create an illusion that we value our employer. People with autism are a bit worse at these games so it is best that they pair with adhd ppl and complement each other
I was an advisor of sorts for someone with autism for a really long time to the point I was sometimes writing text messages word by word for them because they couldn’t really ever make them sound natural. I had no idea about autism back then though. They are in finance now I think doing pretty ok but not typical for sure and they are a bit of example that there are autistic assholes out there
Seriously there is almost nothing worse than autistic person who falls into the incel Tate hole. Not only they are still awkward as hell but also now they are caricature of some kind of macho guy in a mix that is truly hard on anyone’s nerves. On the plus side they are rather confused than evil still because it’s just a trying to fit in mask after all
Not that I necessarily think they’re trying to discriminate against people with autism giving blood, but there’s one of these on the blood donation intake questionnaire.
Intake Questionnaire: In the last year, have you used any illegal drugs via needle injection?
Me: No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who uses illegal drugs via needle injection?
Me (married): Well, it’s not as if I can keep an eye on my wife 24/7… you know what, I’m just going to mark it No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex for money?
Me: No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who has had sex for money?
Me: I’M TELLING YOU, I CAN’T KEEP AN EYE ON HER AT ALL TIMES, SO FUNDAMENTALLY I CANNOT GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION!
Sounds like you need to improve your communication with your wife about her potential IV drug use and extramarital affairs.
I don’t watch her 24 hours a day! I can’t say, with certainty, that she doesn’t transform into a dragon and fight gremlins in a parallel dimension when I’m not around! It’s a fundamentally impossible question to answer, short of “To the best of my knowledge…”
…now I want to hear more about what kind of gremlins a dragon fights…
That one at least has a reasonably understandable medical purpose, all donated blood is tested for the kinds of diseases that these questions are meant to attmpt to screen for, and any amount of testing that can be avoided early saves them more money to spend on other lifesaving pursuits.
Well in the case of blood donation it’s more about not taking/giving blood thzt might have ISTs.
The questions you listes are “interesting” but i think something closer to the issue here (i.e filtering out people out of bigottry) would be like “in the last 4 months have you had sex with someone of the dame sex ?”
I dont know if I’d describe her as a “dame” exactly. But yes, thank you for asking. 🤓
This just in folks: you can’t give blood if you had sex with higher class older women.
You can’t even say the same thing about yourself. Maybe you have a form of sleepwalking where you unknowingly wander off at night and become a heroin user, turning tricks to pay for it.
Dammit, you’re right! I might not even have a legit job! All that money in my bank account might be from blackout bus station blow jobs!
Your entire life could be the vivid dream of one sick child in a hospital bed somewhere…
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I think it would just filter people who know what the correct answer is supposed to be.
I don’t disagree, I just also believe that the people who don’t know what the expected answer is are proportionally more likely to be on the spectrum than not.
in my experience, I’m the autistic one, and I have to explain it to the normies what’s going on with these kinds of questions.
Truth is irrelevant.
Innocence proves nothing.
Being right doesn’t matter.
In what way? Are autistic people more likely to value company profits over personal goals?
My understanding is more that it presents a “logically correct” choice (making money to pay bills and be generally… alive) and a “socially correct” choice (the corporate answer) to filter people out.
No, but they’re more likely to answer honestly (that they get a job for wage).
Masking takes care of this, but possibly not for all.
If I owned the means of production, then answer #1 would be okay.
Or if they had profit sharing, that actually used to be a thing.
People all collectively forgot that that was the piece that made America great in the 50s.
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Officially this was the case, but nobody really paid that. Capital gains were still around 20%, around where they’re at today, and that’s how most of them got wealthy.
i want all business owners to know: i, and millions like me, lie through my fucking teeth on these “surveys,” telling you what we know you want to hear, while quiet quitting every minute of every day. because fuck you
They know, they don’t care. Read bullshit jobs
They want people who know better but still say what is expected of them
They know. They just want to filter out the people who are going to say something about it.
If you’re getting quizzed on subjective questions and ideology, it’s time to back away.
I would think that any business having this on an employment screener would be a huge red flag. But also, part of being a seasoned (read: weathered) corporate wage slave is answering nonsense like this with the corpo-appropriate response and NOT your actual thoughts.
I once applied for a pretty “standard” job. In return, i was asked to complete a survey which was a requirement. This survey consisted of some questions about “what would you do in this scenario if you would work here” (some of them were video-based ones). Since i have quite enough experience working in retail - i answered those questions kinda realistically even tho i thought that in perfect world the actual answer should be different (so called by you @roude@lemmynsfw.com - “corpo-appropriate”). I finished the survey and i got a email with the results…
… it was something like “Not bad! There is a potential to improve” in a kinda mean way
In half of them it’s just “seek direction from my supervisor” or “follow company policy or procedure.”
Basically it’s never “think for yourself” for anything below manager.
Yeah, had to answer a few of these in a personality match assessment when I was greener. Answered them truthfully and… never got a response from the company. But things like: are you willing to grind yourself into dust if the need arises, do you perform 110% 24/7 or just enough to eek by, and the classic “do you work to live or live to work”.
Seems like you just dodged the bullet.
For corps you should live to work.
Corps actually forget that people work primarily for money which they spent to make a living.
Majority of people doing extra % are those who can’t afford living with their normal wage and they see it as the only way to get the money needed. Corps notices it so they think they can abuse those people to do even more extra work for nothing just because “they are hard-working believers in corporate and self success”.
This is fucking bullshit
P.S.
Of course, there are also people (altough in minority) that will do extra work even if they don’t need to, but they actually want to. That’s on them and i respect it.
I refuse to record video answers for an interview. I’ve actually drawn a line at the whole one-way interview in general. If you can’t make the time to talk to me on the phone or on video chat, then you’re not a company I want to work for. Plus, a lot of companies use those video responses to discriminate against people without having to look the person in the eye. It’s so cowardly, and I won’t participate in it.
Acquired responsibility under a working contract ≠ Motivation for signing a working contract
help your CEO get that hefty bonus
As soon as I read the responses I knew what this was. Guys you have no obligation to believe any of the training they give you. You know what the answers are supposed to be to be. Just tell them what they want to hear and keep going. They are still legally responsible for what happens on the job. This is just something they do to get rid of people or prevent people from getting hired.
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Responsibility and objective are two different things
Well damn that’s a good point. But what a weird ass question.
My primary responsibility is to take care of me and my family by earning enough money to pay my bills.
Sure, but on a work questionnaire you obviously aren’t supposed to list your private responsibilities and priorities.
Your private responsibilities and priorities are a whole different topic that’s pretty much entirely unrelated except that work lies in there somewhere. They obviously aren’t saying that work should be on top of your private responsibilities list.
It’s really weird that that even included that as an option. Possibly done in bad faith but likely just incompetence.
I always respond and give the “right” answers because it’s either an HR psychopath checking your answers to see if you’re a dangerous unionist or now a damn AI.
So yes I’d like to kill myself for your company, then find something else and EAT SHIT
Yes Mr. Bossman, I would love to work at your company. I have aspired to be a <insert low-level job title here> since I was a small child. I would do anything to help out the company. My only desire is to help the business.
Remember to tell them what they want to hear and they will do the same but we all know it is just a game.
It’s such a waste of everyone’s time. Just be honest, it’s easier
If it was a worker-owned co-op they’d be the same… but it never is.
you owe that question no honesty
Even the chosen answer is like the bottom minimum of what I expect of a job.
I’d like to be able to pay my bills and have something left at the end I can splurge on something else.
Like a nice suit for the office? Right?
A faster car, to get to the office more quickly of course
I mean, that’s what the business wants from you.
I’m surprised they laid it out like that though.
