Completely unrealistic and unwatchable. Suit needs to be tan.
Take it easy man, we do not want to over stage Citizen Kane, here.
Mr. Tan Suit would win best supporting actor, AND best costume design, by itself.
Don’t forget his choice in condiments.
World’s first white first black president.
Oh god, it’s real.
So it was 30 years ago. I feel like, even though things are far from perfect now, nowadays a comment like this would draw quite a few more critical looks than back then.
People in 1994 knew exactly how fucked this was.
Sure, but knowing how fucked something is and actually speaking out about it are two very different things.
It was also 30 years closer to Harriet Tubman, in a time when black civil rights were not even as sanded smooth as they appear now.
Why would you think that? I was around in 1994, and if anything, it got worse.
No, sorry. Go watch any sitcom from the nineties. There is a lot of stuff in there (racism, sexism, homophobia) that would cause a shitstorm these days.
Maybe you lived in a progressive bubble back then (good for you) but as someone born in the nineties who grew up in the early 00s, I have to say, ignorance was a lot more tolerated back then, even in the 00s.
So you’re looking at an era that you probably don’t remember actively being a part of, and you compare it to the world you do remember. I don’t think I was the one to live in a bubble*. Also, have you seen Musk do the Hitler salute on television? Nobody tried pulling shit like that in 1994.
*I lived, and still live, in a very rural area, which is not know for being progressive.
100%.
Look up who Alec McGuiness played in Lawrence of Arabia.
Or look at Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Or Elizabeth Taylor in Cleopatra. Or John Wayne in Gengis Khan.
Or Emma Stone in Aloha, or Max Minghella in The Social Network, or Tilda Swinton in Doctor Strange.
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It’s such an insane story that I wonder what the other side of it is. It’s easy to imagine the guy just having got out of a meeting ten minutes earlier with “if you don’t get Julia Roberts into a movie by the end of the week, I’ll see you never work in this town again!” ringing in his ears.
This is obviously a perfect role for Ryan Gosling
AI Morgan Freeman
Why AI? Wtf, you made me think he died. Don’t do this to me.
Sorry, I meant “motion capture Morgan Freeman”. Harriet Tubman would be CGI of course.
I think he is already scheduled to star in the MLK movie, so not sure he would have the time
Hollywood Executives can collectively only name at most seven actors at a given time. An entire nine-digit annual industry run by a bunch of coked-up goldfish.
All of these large industries are run by idiots
They’re run by the same average people who work for them. You don’t need to be an idiot to fuck up running something as large and complicated as a trans-national corporation. You don’t need to be a genius to coast in a position that already prints money.
We’re simply not that different from one another. The genius/idiot dichotomy is far more about variances in education, culture, and propagandized bigotry than finding actual differences in intellect.
Hmmm so you need woman of colour? Maybe Gal Gadot? /s
If Hollywood ever did a film about Gaza they would unironically use Gal Godot in the role of a Palestinian woman.
It also be “both sides have something to learn from each other!” Oscar bait a la Crash or Green Book.
I was going to suggest that it would be done with lots of tearful emotion, but then I remembered that Gal can’t actually act, so maybe it would be more of a “after saying the words, turning and looking towards the horizon in an heroic pose” medium shot moving into a panorama showing little children in the background.
(With the right music to pull people’s emotional strings, obviously)
No doubt with lines like “They only hate Israel because of their religion” and “The IDF is protecting me, despite being Palestinian”
“Israel is saving Palestinians like me from the Hamas terrorist regime”
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Next Summer they’ll show Black Hitler
I would not be surprised if that was the title of Kanye’s next album.
KanyeClayton West
Maybe he’s doing a reverse Joaquin Phoenix, going from music artist to actor, just with more antisemitism.
Hitlack or Blitler?
Just a reminder this was a real show
Only aired like one episode though
Conan had Jewish Hitler on at one point. I think Sarah Silverman talked about it on a podcast recently but I can’t remember which one right now
How did they get so far as producing an entire episode? Seriously?!
Being rich doesn’t mean you’re smart.
The average Hollywood executive is really dumb, but they tend to be great talkers and networkers.
they tend to be great talkers and networkers
This is selling them a bit short. They’re also generally pretty good at raping aspiring actresses.
In fairness, many Hollywood actors and actresses are really good at being aware that is happening and yet keeping all their mouths sealed shut while the raping is happening, and for decades. And then pretend to be shocked once the shit comes out. Guess, that is called: Acting.
Pretending she didn’t know anything about it may be Oprah’s best acting outing in her career in the businesses.
All of them?
Only the ones that got into their hands.
Am I the only one who doesn’t know who Harriet Tubman is?
Probably not, but she’s an important figure of the American history. The real question, though, is who will know about Harriet Tubman in a few years, once she gets erased from American history books.
At least people will be able to remember she looked like Julia Roberts
Elon Musk will build The Above Ground Railroad to save white South African immigrants from the tyranny of paying taxes.
The Above Ground Hyperloop
Relevant picture
Yeah, she died in 1913, if she has not been erased in 112 years, and with people still wanting to make a movie about her…
Perhaps you may be leaning into conspiracy theories and are fear mongering yourself and others. Stop it.
Here, from Wikipedia:
Parks, monuments, and historical sites
National parks and national monuments related to Tubman in the United States are the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Monument and the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Historical Park, both in Maryland,[215] and the Harriet Tubman National Historical Park in Auburn.[216] The Salem Chapel in St. Catharines, Canada where Tubman worshipped, is a National Historic Site of Canada.[217]
The city of Auburn, New York has several historical sites related to Tubman, including her gravesite.[218][219] Other state and local historical sites about Tubman include the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad State Park[220] and the Harriet Tubman Memorial Garden[221] in Maryland, and the Harriet Tubman Museum is in New Jersey.[222]
Artistic portrayals
Tubman is the subject of many works of art. Musicians including Woody Guthrie, Wynton Marsalis, and Walter Robinson have written songs celebrating her.[223] She is the subject of operas by Thea Musgrave,[224] Nkeiru Okoye,[225] and Hilda Paredes,[226] as well as plays by Carolyn Gage and a collaboration of May Miller and Willis Richardson.[227] Tubman is the focus of novels by Elizabeth Cobbs,[228] Marcy Heidish,[229] Anne Parrish,[230] and Bob the Drag Queen,[231] and is a character in novels by Terry Bisson,[232] Ta-Nehisi Coates,[233] and James McBride.[234]
Since Tubman’s life was first dramatized on television in a 1963 episode of the series The Great Adventure,[235] she has been portrayed in TV productions such as The Good Lord Bird,[236] Timeless,[237] Underground,[236] and A Woman Called Moses.[238] Cynthia Erivo received an Academy Award nomination for portraying Tubman in the 2019 biographical film Harriet.[239]
Dozens of schools,[247] streets and highways,[248] church groups, social organizations, and government agencies have been named after Tubman.[249] In 1944, the United States Maritime Commission launched the SS Harriet Tubman, its first Liberty ship named for a black woman.[211]
On November 11, 2024, Tubman was posthumously commissioned as a one-star general in the Maryland National Guard in recognition of her military service during the Civil War.[250]
Edit: Look at the people downvoting this pro-Tubman post. LOL
First and foremost, you are side stepping my comment. She ain’t getting “erased.” You could admit to just being wrong there. Instead of moving the goal post.
First link: They are removing DEI stuff from NASA. We do not have to insert DEI into everything if it is not merited. They are not trying to “erase” people from history. DEI is based on political ideology that tends to be performative rather actually useful. Look at all the corporations that claims to support LGBT issues in the USA but say and do nothing in Muslim countries? Why? Because it is all a grift that people in the USA and other countries fall for. Search about the missing money from BLM, Something like half of the 90+ million is just gone. Mostly in houses, salaries to friends, family and crazy lifestyles, travelling. Up here in Toronto, the head of BLM embezzled like $100,000 from York University. Then claimed racism when they took her to court, backtracked that claim the day before the court date and said she would try to pay it back as a way to avoid possible jail. Merited credit is good, Tubman is not going anywhere.
Second link: They are returning the stuff to their rightful owners. They could just donate the items, if they wanted to and care so much about the history. As they claim. If it was part of the collection it would be up on display.
That’s not even close to a thought out response, just reactive defense of the current administration fascistic policies and desire to erase history.
Is it normal that they are removing women from military history?
Does the boot leather taste that great?
Source of your link:
“One official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to provide details that have not been made public, said the purge could delete as many as 100,000 images or posts in total, when considering social media pages and other websites that are also being culled for DEI content. The official said it’s not clear if the database has been finalized.”
Do you have an actual source and not fear mongering? I think you seem to lack understanding on what “erasure,” actually means. No one is hiding or destroying anything.
Also, what you are saying is that I was correct with Tubman or you are still cannot admit to being wrong or are you going to just move the goal post again, Friend? As hominems just prove my point, as you would not resort to those.
I mean, people can down vote me all they want, but we both know you were wrong. LOL
You really don’t think the American administration is trying to erase the contributions of Tubman and other black people? Since you’re so well informed, I’d genuinely like to hear what you think their aims are.
PS. I’m also sceptical that the American right wing can accomplish everything they want from project 2025. But even attempting is chilling, and they really do have a lot of momentum. Good people are naturally nervous about that, since the official opposition is not, IMO, ideologically equipped to combat them.
screenshot of NPS.gov page on Underground Railroad on Jan 21st and on March 19th. Please explain me what happened here.
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Does the phrase “underground railroad” mean anything to you?
Not everyone is from North America. That is like me asking you, does “Dr. Kwame Nkrumah” mean anything to you?
Tbh, it should. American educations don’t touch Africa barring a dip into Egypt, which usually compresses the dynasties in a way that does nothing for a deeper understanding. Even as someone with a BA in history, that watched the course listing like a hawk for “history of the Sahel” or “history of the Mali empire” or some lovely 3000-4000 course - nothing.
I should have been taught who Nkrumah was. And Léopold Senghor, and Kenyatta…
Instead, I lean on The Fate of Africa by Martin Meredith. Which is a good book, but by a journalist, not a historian.
does “Dr. Kwame Nkrumah” mean anything to you?
C’mon, there are lots of NBA fans outside of the United States.
If only that question was a direct response to someone talking about an American historical figure by name.
…no?
Okay, Harriet Tubman, born into slavery in the early 1800s, escaped slavery, probably best known today for making 13 trips to the South and guiding 70 slaves on their escape to free states via a system of secret routes, sympathizers and safe houses referred to as The Underground Railroad. Tubman went on to serve as a spy for the Union army during the American civil war, and was a figure in the women’s suffrage movement, surviving into the 20th century.
So, the fact that she was a black woman is kind of important to Harriet Tubman’s lore, and casting Julia Roberts in the role is rather inappropriate.
The Underground Railroad had nothing to do with actual trains, but they used a lot of railroad related terminology as code speak. Trail guides were referred to as “conductors,” safe houses were “stations,” etc. Very little of it was actually underground; I’m sure a few slaves hid in root cellars or caves along the way, but there were no tunnels. Escapees were sometimes carried by boat or train but most traveled on foot and/or by wagon. There’s a sort of folklore image of slaves traveling at night under the cover of darkness, navigating by the North Star. Allegedly, the song “Follow The Drinkin’ Gourd” was a slave song that contained coded instructions for navigating along the Underground Railroad by landmarks along the trail and by using Merak and Dubhe in Ursa Major to identify Polaris…I’m pretty sure this is 20th century embellishment to the story but it’s a prominent visual, kind of like Johnny Appleseed’s pot hat.
This bit of history is taught so widely in American schools that the term “underground railroad” has just become our word for a secret, grassroots network of routes, safe houses and guides for transporting refugees out of danger.
Here you go. She was a pretty amazing person. If you’re from the US and didn’t learn about her in school, your school failed you.
Congrats on being one of the lucky 10,000 learning something new, especially about a genuine hero!
Like the Eurostar
We call it the subway or the metro nowadays.
TL;DR, she was an insanely brave black woman who helped a metric fuck ton of slaves escape the south.
She’s the original free runner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1dhATC-ekQ
Never be afraid to ask a question to rectify a lack of knowledge.
“Hollywood is crazy. The Last Samurai, staring Tom Cruise…?!”
The last Samurai is not played by Tom Cruise. He plays a guy who gets to know and grows to respect the last Samurai and Japanese culture.
Ken Watanabe as Lord Moritsugu Katsumoto, he plays the eponymous “Last Samurai.”
Clearly you have not even watched the damn movie. Or what is your point?
But we are all good with a black woman playing the real life British Anne Boleyn?
Man, can’t wait until we find out which white actor will play Barack Obama in his biopic. I mean, diversity is our strength.
1-You had to actually watch the full movie to get any of that context
2-It’s still Cruise’s face front and center on every piece of promotional art
3-As much as I hate that this is true, the vast majority of people who saw that movie did not do so because they heard Ken Watanabe was in it
Yeah, no confusion here.
It’s also not a “white character playing a japanese character” it’s inspired by Jules Brunet.
Also Samurai es plural too, Ken Watanabe wasn’t the last samurai, it was all of them.
- Who is in the habit of starting to watch a movie and like, walk out half way? Most people watch movies from beginning to end. Like what are you saying? People are not supposed to know every plot beat or point in a movie if they have never watched it or read the script.
Did you know that in the Avengers movie, they do not really or actually avenge anything? You would have to watch it to get that, I guess.
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Uh, so? It was an American production about an American fictitious character, starring one of the biggest, most recognised actors and movie draws of the last 35+ years. Fail to understand the point… Did you know that Japanese movies spotlight Japanese actors/characters on their covers even if the movie is set in the USA or Europe or deals with their culture? Is it incorrect when they do it?
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Why do you hate the fact that most Americans at the time did not know who Watanabe was? That’s nonsensical. It is not anyone’s job to know actors from other countries. Clearly, the biggest draw was Tom Cruise both in the USA and for the international market, he is still a huge draw, even today. I would say that most of the world did not know who Watanabe was, outside of Japan at that point. I would say that most people may not know who he is even today. Unless you point out the Last Samurai or the Godzilla or Batman movies first. Despite he being in tons of other projects, specially in Japan TV.
Edit: Lots of Watanabe haters here.
Just gonna leave this here. Not sure why the urge struck, but ah well! C’est la vie!
Uh, it’s a free country and neither of us are paying for the server space. Albeit I do not know why you want to be such a white supremacist or focus on that. But c’est la vie. You do you, friend! No judgement.
Maybe add a PIC of Watanabe. But if not, post a bunch more photos of Tom Cruise, his new movie is about to come out! More eyes on the ball, I say. Cheers!
This is the single biggest WHOOSH I’ve seen on the Internet since 2000. You are a legend.
Hehehe.
You’ve given me a fair bit to think about, but looking at your responses to most of the other comments in this thread, it seems like you’re just out for a good argument. I have no problem with that (within reason) but I’ll be honest, I just don’t have the energy to engage with it today.
Again, you have given me a good amount to ponder, I hope there are no hard feelings. My apologies if I insulted or upset you in any way. I hope you have a good day
I mean, they go back in time and save half the population of the universe from being murdered, seems pretty avengeful…
So, you missed the link…? Or, just lost your sense of humor in the war?
ETA: when did i say that Tom Cruise was the last samurai…?
Yeah, Tom Cruise was The First Weeaboo.
What are they gonna do next? The Last Ni*** on Earth, starring Tom Hanks?
- this is a quote from Chapelle’s show, just to be clear
Hollywood is a cult.
Blueberry pancakes are delicious.
This is crazy, I mean Roberts is from the South and Tubman from the north, no one’s going to believe it!
True! It’s called acting for a reason.
Halle Berry though… 🤔
Kevin Hart.
Martin Lawrence would rock it in “Big Tubman’s House”
I’m going to hell for this upvote.
Would have been a better role than catwoman
I’m a top exec for a very big movie company and I hear you on this. No more Julia Roberts. Got it. Roberts out, Catwoman in. …
Someone get me Michelle Pfeiffer on the phone. I have a great idea, Catwoman as Harry Tubmen.
That’s an Oscar winner, right there.
Queue Dave Chappelle and his sketch ‘Negrodamas’
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I predict a movie called The Last Black Man on Earth, starring Tom Hanks
Thanks for sharing! Had no idea NASSA existed 🫡
I mean, if its a documentary on the last black man on earth, it couldn’t actually be played by a black man.
Unless it was produced in space, or on another planet, I suppose.
Have you considered that
(a) documentaries do not need actors, and
(b) if they did, the last black man earth could star as himself?
(a) Then how did Tom Hanks get involved? “Starring actor” was included in the premise.
(b) If he knows he’s the last black man on earth, sure. But that would suggest a predictable, but unavoidable tragedy, known months in advance to give enough time to actually produce the movie.
citation needed
Citation is that this is a meme.
The article led me down a rabbit hole leading to an article about the ghost in the shell movie adaptation promo meme generator being used to criticise the whitewashing in the movie adaptation
Fuck whitewashing
I vote for Danny DeVito
