A few of those bullet points make the classic blunder of US election conversation, ignoring the electoral college.
For example, Democrats who realized they were not in a swing state and stayed home didn’t actually make anything worse. They were using their brains. Maybe they didn’t stay home, maybe they were actually going to their job and making money. So when you’re looking at total national turnout, it actually doesn’t tell you anything useful.
You could look at the world as somewhat of one nation. Because it’s all controlled by the same trans international elite. So if I’m a politician and I want to push through my agenda, but I’m not going to go through traditional channels, there are avenues that I can take. Just like you use a VPN, a politician might use the intelligence department of another country. So when everybody gets all hard, dicked when it comes to Russia, I wouldn’t look too much into that. Other than the left and right paradigm is fighting amongst each other for their own ability to exploit us even further and promote their imperialist goals. Neoliberalism is a right-wing ideology and the Republicans which are just empty vessels of just exponential gain are really filling the void of the capitalist dysfunction which is leading to traditional values, going back in time and populism.
That Democrats had record turnout
According to Ballotpedia, in 2024 ~63.9% of the eligible US voting population (older than 18, US citizen, resident of voting jurisdiction) turned out to vote (registered & casted a ballot) or ~155 mn people. This means ~36.1% didn’t turn out, or ~88 mn people out of the ~243 mn total eligible population. In 2020, the turnout rate was ~66.6% or ~158 mn, meaning ~33.4% or ~79 mn didn’t vote out of the ~238 mn total eligible population.
According again to Ballotpedia, ~77 mn voted R in 2024 (~49.8% of the voting population or ~31.8% of the total eligible population), ~75 mn voted D (~48.3% of the voting population or ~30.8% of the total eligible population), and ~3 mn voted 3rd party (~1.9% of the voting population or ~1.2% of the total eligible population).
In 2020, ~81 mn voted D (~51.3% of the voting population or ~34.2% of the total population), ~74 mn voted R (~46.9% of the voting population or ~31.2% of the total eligible population), and ~3 mn voted 3rd party (~1.8% of the voting population or ~1.2% of the total eligible population).
Democrats lost ~6 mn voters from 2020 to 2024 after looking at the above three sources, despite the voting population decreasing by ~3 mn and the eligible population increasing by ~5 mn. This implies that they did not have record turnout if you compare to 2020, also implying 2020 was more of a “record” turnout compared to 2024.
& record voter registration
Regarding voting registration, Ballotpedia haven’t posted data from 2024 or 2020, instead sharing 2022 information (which is biased since most people don’t vote in off-General Election years). The US Census Bureau have gathered this information however:
According to the US Census Bureau, in 2024 the total eligible voting population (older than 18, US citizen, assumed resident of voting jurisdiction) was ~236 mn, the total registered population was ~174 mn (~73.6% of total eligible population), and the total voting population was ~154 mn (~65.3% of the total eligible population). Comparing registered to voting populations, ~154 mn voted out of ~174 mn registered (~88.8%), while ~20 mn did not vote (~11.2%).
In 2020, the US Census Bureau reports that the total eligible voting population was ~232 mn, the total registered population was ~168 mn (~72.7% of the total eligible population), and the total voting population was ~155 mn (~66.8% of the total eligible population). Comparing registered to voting populations, ~155 mn voted out of ~168 mn registered (~91.9%), while ~14 mn did not vote (~8.1%).
What the above 2 sources show is that more people were eligible and registered to vote in 2024 compared to 2020, but less people actually voted in that same time frame, both in absolute (~154 vs ~155 mn) and relative (~88.8% vs ~91.9%) terms. This could imply that Democrats didn’t receive “record” registration, but the US Census Bureau doesn’t gather party affiliation in their registration data.
Ballotpedia does collect this, and says that only 30 states allowed voting registrants to list their party affiliation on their registration AND made this information public. The other 20 states and DC might have allowed this information to be collected, but didn’t make such data public, or didn’t collect this information to begin with.
The numbers Ballotpedia report are that in March 2024, ~118 mn people registered in 30 states, ~45 mn registered D (~38.3%), ~36 mn registered R (~30.3%), and ~37 mn registered 3rd party (~31.4%). Ballotpedia doesn’t have registration data for 2020 (nor for 2019 or 2018), but does have 2021. For June of that year, ~125 mn people registered in 31 states, ~49 mn registered D (~39.6%), ~36 mn registered R (~29.2%), and ~39 mn registered 3rd party (~31.2%).
This data is likely biased because it was collected in March of 2024 and June of 2021, times of the year and of election cycles where people aren’t as engaged in politics as around times of the year/election cycles closer to General Elections. It does indicate that Democrats received above average registration numbers, but that the registration numbers were more “record” in 2020 than in 2024. We don’t have data for every state though, so really this finding is inconclusive.
20 million less Democrats voted
Like I said above, ~6 mn less Democrats voted in 2024 over 2020, not 20 mn.
Where is the evidence for the “record turnout”? Where is the evidence for the “record voter registration”? Where is the evidence of the “20 million more Democrats”?
From what evidence I can find, Democrats had lower turnout, lower registrations, and less votes in 2024 than 2020.
The lack of analysis of voting data in this post leads me to believe that the other information and claims are suspect. Seems more like a narrative is being pushed than fact.
Heres a crazy radical idea that will truly shock you, maybe (just maybe) Kamala lost because of a combination of her campaign being a complete disaster and republicans owning the media. Also Kamala trying to win the Republican vote and it statistically not working, all it did was convince democrats to stay home.
Harris’ campaign was 107 days long. It would have been a miracle if she were elected.
•Trump always accuses others of crime, before or while doing the crime himself. He accused Biden of stealing the election
Writing down conspiracies like these makes you sound exactly like the guy you’re saying you hate. Democrats lost. It happens. But now going around talking about how it was rigged? It removes credibility.
No no, it was the leftists! The solution is to pin absolutely all of the blame on anyone who ever said anything critical of Harris and/or Biden! Then we just have to run the exact same play in three years and we’re bound to win.
Yeah no, election denial is a republican thing.
…how hard is it to comprehend that a majority of men in swing states couldn’t vote for a woman of color?..
NC went for a blue governor but went for trump. If the elections were rigged surely NC would have been straight red.
This downplays the state of our country and amount of stupid ones who voted for Biden but couldn’t for Kamala. There was no conspiracy. A couple of days before the election, CNN interviewed black men who in Georgia who voted for Biden previously and I knew she was cooked when they were like “nah man I don’t know woman get emotional” and “the oval office is a mans job” “I don’t know if she can handle foreign policy” t
Basically men who couldn’t hold their fucking nose and set aside their machismo bullshit for the sake of everyone else and voted for the man. And I’m sure there were millions of them who felt this same way. These “conspiracy’s” overhadow the blatant misogyny that is obviously rampant in this country.
Oh and Gen X and Millennials who stayed the fuck home
This is a liberal pitfall: attempting to explain fascism rising because of identity politics.
This is copium. It’s preferable to think there was a conspiracy to swing the election compared to the reality that more people voted for him than for sanity.
There is good reason to believe that even more wasn’t kosher than usually during US elections and that esp. Republicans had their thumbs on the scales.
We should look into it properly.
But this sort of facebook meme with predigested slogans without any sources is worse than useless.
You do not register a party in Texas.
No, not really. Americans have a majority of their voting population that are racists, sexists, etc. If you didn’t vote at all (and could), you’re just as much to blame as the one voting for Trump.
I said this after the election and I do strongly believe that in a few years, we will find out just how corrupt the 2024 election really was.
Me too, on both points.
But spreading facebook memes throwing wild accusation without any sources is worse than useless.
Definitely the amount of brainrot on facebook, TikTok, and twitter is just wow…
The rigging was mostly done on the TV screen via propaganda, not the ballot box.
Is it really hard to believe people are just stupid and elected a traitor? The see prices go up and immediately blame the incumbent. The anti-incumbency effect happened around the world, not just a US thing.
States run elections. Blue states also shifted red by double digits. Are you suggesting republicans can somehow rig blue state elections without anyone raising alarms?
People just are afraid, and with fear, they look for a strongman that makes good sounding promises, no matter how ridiculous they are. (although its funny that people still view trump as a “strongman” dude is old and fragile)
Republicans have decades of experience in shifting elections in their favor by means other than convincing voters. It really isn’t unlikely. The USA should look into it. But the sort of sourceless and predigested meme OP posted is worse than useless here.
Texas doesn’t have registered Democrats because you don’t specify a party affiliation when you register to vote in Texas.
I’m not going to spot check the rest of the items, but this list is at least partially B.S. so the whole thing is suspect.
Yes, the Republicans cheat and voter suppression is the only thing that keeps them in power, but spreading misinformation about that voter suppression makes it harder to fight, not easier.
Texas doesn’t have registered Democrats because you specify a party affiliation when you register to vote in Texas.
How does “affiliating while registering” not equate to “registering as?”
Texas did in fact purge voter rolls in the lead up to the election, though it was months, not days, prior, and I haven’t seen evidence of it being predominantly aimed at Democrats. However, the state does know what primary you voted in and can use that to formulate a “potential Democrat” list.
they know which counties leans democrats, thats how they target thier voter suppression methods there.
That was a mistake in my original post. I meant to say that you DON’T specify a political affiliation when you register.
Thanks for catching that, I edited the original post to fix it.
Pretty sure voter apathy is a bigger problem. Of course the former is a big one but you can’t explain away 90 million not voting as simply voter suppression.
voter apathy(the ones that cant be bothered to vote or dint vote because they dont think its important) and LOW-Information voters.
I live in a swing state area where bomb threats were called in on election day. This isn’t b.s. at all.
There is some evidence that tabulating machines were tempered with. I was wondering if calling a bomb threat wasn’t part of it.
When alarm was called and everyone left the building someone could get in and switched software.
The bomb threats were real. I never said every item on the list was fake… it’s the list itself is B.S.
Mixing real voter suppression techniques along with easily debunked fake ones makes the real ones more likely to be dismissed.
That’s why I said these sorts of misinformation posts make it harder to fight back against voter suppression.
it was also done by none other than russia, than these states decided to close thier polling after trump was in the lead too.
So one item wasn’t BS. And you haven’t provided evidence of even that much.
It made international news (here in Canada at least) and the FBI has a statement about it on their website.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-statement-on-bomb-threats-to-polling-locations
Pretty weak sauce. Some threats were made. I’m sure they were! Can we get just a little more backing?
This is Journalism 101: Where, When, Who, Why, How, etc. That link answers none of that.
Were those threats made public? Taken seriously? Was there any real effects on the ground? I’m on here more than I need to be and didn’t see a thing that day, nothing that stuck in my mind. Wouldn’t you think this site would be blowing up with this news? Maybe I had my head completely up my ass on election day? And BTW, I’m in a highly contested state, so this should have been somewhat local news to me.
Fuck it. Lemmy wants to believe memes, no questions asked, as usual. Some grainy FB text and y’all are all in. Kinda reminds me of another group.
On Election Day in 2024, several U.S. polling places received bomb threats, many of which were later determined to be hoaxes. These threats disrupted voting in key battleground states, including Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
Bomb threats that U.S. officials linked to Russian email domains disrupted what was generally a smooth voting experience across America on Election Day.
Let me guess, NPR is posting fake news?
The threats were all over the news ON ELECTION DAY. What rock were you hiding under that you think this is fake?
Right, someone tells you, there were bomb threats in my district, and you counter with, nah, show me the evidence. Why even bother if you’re gonna act like that. Yo cane easily google this stuff and see people aren’t lying.
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Considering that a few posts down from this one is this about Oklahoma changing education standards to push the 2020 election Big Lie, I’m starting to think having integrity is a losing strategy no matter how much we wish it were otherwise.
