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Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
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What I find so annoying is how there are so many people (outside of this platform) who are just shocked and devastated about this news. I am over here like…the man is in his eighties. He is an elderly man. We should not be that surprised about some illness popping up at that age.
I wish him ease of his suffering in direct proportion to how much he eased innocent Palestinians suffering. Seems only fair.
This is why after 60, I’m not going to try to be president. I’m retiring. Guy spent the last few good years he had stressed out running the country when he should’ve been playing bingo and sitting on a beach.
Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).
Wishing him all the best. I have seen quite a few men die to that disease (no one dies of prostate cancer but it spreads really fast and to really bad places).
Good luck Biden.
Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)
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If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.
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With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.
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Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.
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Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.
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After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.
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Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.
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If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.
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As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.
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I always love the cognitive dissonance people have seeing others hope that a man directly responsible for a metric ton of civilian deaths, succumbing to a painful death, is not ethically correct.
I mean people seem to have zero issue with United Healthcare. Exorbitant Healthcare costs is the equivalent of death, but literally bombing hospitals and refugee camps isn’t?
Not to mention that he’ll be receiving the latest and greatest in medical aid anyway, so there’s a fair chance he’ll survive. A lot of geriatric asshat world leaders contracted covid and still lived.
I can’t even tell if this is DNC shilling because several people have implied they would treat Trump the same. Wth kind of moral compass are yall following lol?
What are these comments? You people are vile.
It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.
I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.
Wait I thought he was built like an NFL all star
I mean, we know his health report was a sham. The dude reported that Trump only has like 5% body fat. Even the most shredded body builders struggle to hit 5%.
lol 5% body fat. fucking hilarious.
The zero key was broken from putting the payoff checks into Excel
Can you cite the source for that? Because that claim simply could not have been made without sounding like a goddamn moron.
It’s hard to not sound like a moron when you’re an absolute moron
Even if it was true, too little body fat comes with its own bag of health issues. (Metabolism, cardiovascular, vitamin uptake, brain function…)
That was satire. A body fat figure was never reported.
He won’t ever get cancer or get sick or catch a disease. He will be “poisoned by the radical left” and Maggots will say “they’ve gone too far” and calls to ban the party from the shithole MAGAs will come out along the words “treason” being thrown out there.
If he goes the fuck away from old age (which is more likely based on how reality works) he will be “assassinated.”
No matter how his end will be, there will be calls to prosecute and execute “traitors responsible.” If he does become president for life the “traitor” will be coincidentally the candidate on the opposing party. That’s if by that point if we even have elections a anymore. He could be geriatric in a fucking wheelchair and they will say this mark my words.
Because they know after trump they will be utterly fucked to legally be elected back to power. (At least I hope)
This is so like medieval times where we just are praying that the king dies.
Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.
Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.
Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.
It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.
It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.
Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It’s so funny and scary.
Trump has already issued a generic sympathy statement, “Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.”
yes, but for most of those men it’s a cancer they die with, rather than one they die from.
its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer
Understood. Yeah my post was more of a PSA, baking general knowledge into people’s brains. Everybody freaks out when they hear the word “cancer”, and they should know…prostate cancer in old men is different. But this one is aggressive & mutating & it’s metastasized into the bones, etc.
What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can’t afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?
I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.
It’s that pesky top-of-the-line health care he has access to.
ass related illness
Now there’s a phrasing…
Putting my hopes on infected hemorrhoids
He probably got a dirty ass.
“Yoav Galant is a pretty good guy.”
With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.
Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.
Fuck these motherfuckers that are down-voting.
Maybe it is downvoted because those weapons were funded long before Joe Biden was the leader?
Weapon shipments to Israel went up to unheard of levels under Biden’s watch. Even Trump hasn’t sent as much in either term.
But that’s factually incorrect. Billions of dollars of new US military aid to Israel, during the genocide, were okayed by the Biden admin. This is not controversial, this is not classified, this is public knowledge that made headlines in all major news outlets at the time.
It doesn’t suit the present pro-netanyahu narrative, so it never happened.
The Leahy law requires that those weapons be withheld. But the party of letting bullshit procedure get in the way of doing the right thing doesn’t let actual law get in the way of doing the wrong thing.
Yeah but obeying laws is for the poor, not when you commit federal crimes. They let you get away with it as the president.
That would have been a bummer, wouldn’t it? Joe Biden should have been ashamed of himself if he had allowed such a thing to happen under his leadership. Thank God he didn’t.
Oh weird, so it wasn’t a constant stream of weapons provided with stamped approval by the admin? It wasn’t that the only time they threatened to stop it was only a very specific type of heavy bomb, not any other munitions? It wasn’t the Biden admin who initially rejected the terms ceasefire until deep into the conflict? It wasn’t the Biden admins ceasefire plans that were accepted and abandoned by Trump, proving that if they had provided full throated support of those plans it could have very reasonably happened a year sooner?
Best thing you can say about this fuck was that he was the white guy they used to get Obama elected, cause they figured no one would vote for him unless he had a token cracker.
Man, the criticisms are valid, and I’ll even add to them because his pride in not stepping down sooner doomed what shreds of american democracy were left. That said, the best and largest climate bill ever passed by the US govt happened under him. Unions were bolstered and grew under him (not the train workers tho lol) and if nothing else, his victory let me not think about the fat orange cow for ten minutes. In so many ways, I pity and even kinda miss that sad sleepy bastard-- however much he floundered in almost every way. As a bonus his dogs hated government agents as much as I do, and got to bite them with impunity.
Totally fair, despite the vitriol and glibness of my response. But man, as you mentioned the railroad was a big fuck up. Speaking of shitty situations for Palestinians… East Palestine Ohio happened like 2 months after he made the rail workers go back to work, and it was one of the exact problems they were striking for. That’s directly on his hands.
What planet are you on?
Are we even sure he actually knew he was doing that? I wonder if he even knows he has cancer.
That’s a fair point, he was not compos mentis during the second half of his presidency. But then, suppose someone in the more advanced stages of Alzheimer’s gets behind the wheel and runs over and kills a child. Are they morally culpable? I think the answer is non-obvious, and at any rate subjective.
For me personally, a necessary (but not sufficient) precondition is that the driver currently remembers what they did. This also implies that as time progresses, they lose culpability, as in time they will forget about it. It’s hard to judge whether Biden satisfies this. I mean, in his worst moments (like the debate, and his recent appearance on the View) it’s so obvious that he doesn’t understand what’s going on that I have a hard time believing he fully understands what’s happening in the middle east. This, to me, would imply that he’s not culpable for the genocide by virtue of simply not knowing it’s happening in the first place.
If he allowed terrorists to build command centres in those hospitals, and dig tunnels underneath, then perhaps they would have been bombed to the ground…
As a reminder, the claim that Hamas built a command center under Shifa Hospital comes solely from the IDF. They have rejected offers to have an international delegation of journalists freely roam the area to verify the claim.
As another user pointed out, there’s no basis for those claims other than IDF press releases, which is literally the party that’s doing the bombing. Not crazy reliable. But let’s say they’re not lying, or wrong. Let’s say that enemy combatants are holed up underneath all schools, all hospitals, all churches and mosques, and 90% of residential buildings in Gaza (writing it out like this makes it sound really fucking stupid and unbelievable, but let’s entertain the thought anyway).
In the case that medical facilities are used in acts harmful to you, they become legitimate military targets under international humanitarian law. However, when you do bomb such facilities you have a number of responsibilities, including preparing a contingency plan and getting full medical service (such as cancer wards, maternity wards, and so on) up and running as soon as possible. If you don’t, you’re right back in war crime territory. And Israel hasn’t.
But aside from legal stuff, just ask yourself on a moral level if you’re okay with this. If your mother is taken hostage in a bank robbery, would you be okay with the police dealing with this situation by blowing up the entire building? I personally wouldn’t, but I guess it’s conceivable that you would respond by saying “the robber did the hostage taking, the cops had no other choice, and the only one to blame for my mother’s death is the robber”.
All of this is all hypothetical of course because there’s actually no reason to believe that all hospitals, schools, places of worship, residential buildings, and refugee camps are all valid military targets. Because what moron would believe such a thing based entirely on what the party doing the bombing is saying?
I’m just pointing out how ridiculous the comparison is to the USA. Which, to my knowledge, is not a huge refugee camp riddled with terrorists.
Yeah, and you’re basing this on info from the IDF, which I and others point out is hardly an impartial observer. There are impartial third party observers (Amnesty, WHO, Red Cross, ICC, ICJ, Unicef, etc.) and they all disagree with you. Try applying a even a smidge of critical thinking.
The IDF is a terrorist organization that set up torture rape camps that raped multiple hospital administrators to death.
They kidnapped before the war over 10,000 Palestinians from the west bank without any judicial oversight and committed a large indiscriminate terrorist attack against Lebanon.
Get the fuck out of here defending an apartheid terrorist country.
fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president
Watch your aim dude!
Ugh, first that kid only getting his ear and now THIS?
do better
When they sending time travellers, they aren’t sending their best. 🤦♂️
This is why some religions point themselves before the praying starts.
Tbf, Trump’s health is shrouded in so much subterfuge that you could have gotten the right president but we just don’t know it.
I mean, given the fact that this affected Joe Biden up until this announcement, and no medical examiner announced it previously, it does seem plausible.
biden is a scumbag, always has been pimp for lobbyist and aipac cancer. you murder kids for money this is what he should get and hopefully worse in afterlife.
Fuck these down voters.
Naaa there are just two buttons and both of them can be pressed.
I would bungee jump on them.
No harm done
Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10…9…8…
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢
I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:
Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.
I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though
This almost made me puke:
Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.
If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.
Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.
You are an angel! Yes it’s written by an educated and classy person. Not him.
Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP’s countdown:
What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???
I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden’s doctorate is in education.
I thought that was his son? Or did he retweet it?
Those were his words while retweeting something else.
Kinder response than half of Lemmy, even if he didn’t write it.
Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Agreed.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Agreed.
He deserves much worse.
Agreed.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.
Hard disagree.
You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.
If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.
Yeah, there is absolutely no way he wrote that!
lol yup no way t wrote that himself.
This comment section shows that even on decentralized, less mainstream platforms there’s a lot of people behaving similarly to what would be called bots on Reddit. Come on, guys, we can do better than this.
We can acknowledge Joe Biden’s crimes and failures without cheering his sickness and wishing him a painful death. Same with Donald Trump and all the other scummy politicians.
We can also disagree about various policies, issues or parties while treating each other with respect and an open mind, instead of degrading all discussion to ‘communism vs capitalism’ or ‘democracy vs fascism’ arguments.
I know it can be difficult to remain civil towards government officials who are essentially criminals, and anyone who supports or seems to support them in any capacity. However, I personally think we should try.
This morning while driving to work I heard on NPR that doctors recommend screenings for people between 50 and 60 years of age. The guy said that older people like 70’s and 80’s have more problems and I missed exactly what the reasoning other than aggravating them with one more problem was for not screening that group actively.
But you and I know. Its simple! 50 and 60 year olds are still working do they got money. 80 year olds don’t have money. No reason to screen them. Sure the treatments work…kinda sorta. But the treatments are expensive. So if you’re 80 its not important that they find your cancer because they can’t make money from you. If you’re well to do, then sure, we can try our methods. But if you got no money, there’s no point. What are you going to do anyway with no job and no money. Even if you could pay, then what? Sell the car and house and live on the streets? Would that be worse? Not really the doctors don’t care if they got paid. Its all about the money.
