• M137
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        161 month ago

        I’m a Borderlands fan, but it absolutely isn’t even in the same universe of quality as BG3. Borderlands is dumb, pretty shitty and lost quality with each game. It’s mindless fun, like B movie popcorn flicks.

          • @SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip
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            430 days ago

            But that type of fun is something I can get from many other games, making borderlands way less desirable if it’s $80. On the other hand if larian says that their next game is $80, I already know that I won’t find that type of experience anywhere else and I might just splurge.

          • @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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            This is as wrong as Ebert saying games can’t be “art”.

            I love silly, junk-food sitcoms. But I would never say they are the best quality.

        • @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
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          130 days ago

          what game would you consider “not pure dogshit”? seriously, what games? give me a list, because if an acclaimed franchise that was widely praised and birthed a literal genre is considered dogshit, then what isnt dogshit?

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    Look, you can charge whatever you want.

    “Is your game worth $80 to average gamers dealing with (gestures broadly at state of world economy)?”

    That is the question every studio executive needs to ask themselves.

    Given the recent trends in AAA-funded projects, for the most part, that answer is “Oh, hell no.”

    • goodeye8
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      Exactly. They can charge $200 if they want to but it doesn’t mean people are going to buy at that price. The price point needs to be where people are okay paying for it and I don’t see it happening at $80. Okay, I lied a bit, I see it happening for some games but not for BL4.

      • @SolidShake@lemmy.world
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        31 month ago

        How do you know for certain without seeing gameplay or trying it? No one knows what’s in the game except the devs.

        What if it’s OG borderlands and there’s no battle pass or microtransactions.

        This is more of a don’t pre order type thing.

        • goodeye8
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          I’m willing to eat my words but I doubt I need to. In a world where Clair Obscur costs $50 I don’t how see how BL could be $30 better than one of the best games released this year.

        • @overload@sopuli.xyz
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          130 days ago

          IMO If they made a game exactly like BL1/2 with better graphics and updated gameplay, it still wouldn’t be worth $80.

          BL just isn’t all that great, but fortunately the price of their games falls to what they’re worth pretty quickly.

    • @Moose@moose.best
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      101 month ago

      If Ubisoft can convince themselves that Skull and Bones was the first “quadruple A game” and worth $70, then I doubt most studio execs can pull their heads out their ass for long enough to properly ask themselves that. Studios have completely lost touch with what people actually want and are willing to pay.

  • @TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    431 month ago

    I didn’t even buy Borderlands 3 for $60 and there’s no way in hell I’d pay $80 for something similar. I spent the full price of Baldur’s Gate 3 for myself and two of my friends for a total of $180. Make the game worth it and you have my money. If the development cost of games has gone up then prove it and make better games.

    • @Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world
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      91 month ago

      I thought BL3 tanked so I’m pretty surprised they think they can charge this month. Did it review poorly and still sell well??

  • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    351 month ago

    Yeah, inflation is a thing. But so is increasing volumes in sales with low cost distribution of the product.

    After a game is made now, the only cost is distribution now, and games sell in larger volumes than ever before, making more money than ever before. A game like BL4? Even if they spent $300,000,000 making the game they only need to sell 6,000,000 copies to recoup costs at $70. BL3 has sold 18,000,000 copies. A huge profit, even if most of those sales were on sale prices. BL3 was made and advertised with a 140 million dollar budget.

    • @Butterpaderp@lemmy.world
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      51 month ago

      Not to mention, all of the dlc that’ll inevitably be released, following every other borderlands game pattern. Wonder what they’ll try to set the prices of those at

  • @thetrekkersparky@startrek.website
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    301 month ago

    I haven’t bought full price games in ages. Games are always released half finished now. Wait six months to a year until it goes on sale and they actually finish the game.

    • Tony Wu
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      141 month ago

      The only game I paid full price in recent years was BG3, because it’s worth it, and the people who worked in the game were worth it.

      • @Seefoo@lemmy.world
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        730 days ago

        yea, but BG3 didn’t release in a complete state. With that said, Larian has delivered on their promise and that’s really a good example of how a AA/AAA title can do early access in a good and healthy way.

    • @nfreak@lemmy.ml
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      121 month ago

      I’ll gladly buy indies, breakout titles with huge reception (BG3, E33 etc), or games from well renowned studios that have yet to let me down. Anything else I’m fine waiting for a sale. With these $80 price tags I don’t see myself buying a AAA title again for a LONG time.

      • @Case@lemmynsfw.com
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        91 month ago

        I felt that way about CyberPunk 2077 and CDPR.

        CDPR hadn’t let me down. Yet. Ultimately, they redeemed themselves, sure, but at launch… whew, there were issues.

        Game companies CAN redeem themselves. Business wise though? Its hard to recoup that kind of shaken faith in investors, board members, etc; let alone the people you’re actually trying to sell to.

        There are so MANY fucking games out there these days, that I’ll look at something new, and decide I don’t like certain elements of the gameplay, and just move on.

        If a feature looks more frustrating than fun? I’m good, thanks.

        I’ve played hard games on the hardest setting for the challenge. I’ve also played “easy” just to get drunk and enjoy a story.

        If it isn’t fun though? Then what am I doing here?

        I already spend 8+ hours a day on the computer and hate it, but at least they pay me.

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      I honestly can’t remember the last time I paid full price for a game. Between free amazon prime games, epic games, gog, and steam demos/freebies: I hardly have time to invest in new games.

      I used to buy Madden/NBA2k every year up until 2008 or so, now I grab one every five years at $10. Includes all the bugs from the previous version.

      I have 1000s of games now and don’t have any time to play them. BG3 is the only game I’m considering spending $40 for.

  • @TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works
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    I bought borderlands 2 the other week and it’s been a blast on my SteamDeck. Unfortunately it seems it’s one of those games that loves to connect online all the time, like it’ll kick me out of single player if it detects wifi and make me reload into… singleplayer, but online. with 0 differences.

    I probably would’ve been better off pirating it tbh.

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    There once was a game that was not free
    The head of the game was big Randy
    He joked one day with a cheery grin
    Real fans would pay the fee HUAGH

    Soon may the pirates come
    To snag some games and have their fun
    One day, when the cracks are done
    We’ll take our games and go

    • ZeroOne
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      41 month ago

      We need piracy guides for linux users as well, brother/sister

  • Cosmoooooooo
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    221 month ago

    Every Corporate asshole: “Give me all your money, you don’t need to eat, sleep, or live. If you don’t, you’re not cool like me!”

    So sick of dropping asshole companies because of idiots constantly pushing this garbage. Oh well.

    “But I was trained in management school to think of people as nothing more than numbers! It’s not my fault!” - corpo piece of shit.

  • @Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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    I’ll buy this when it’s $20 with all expansions in two years.

    It’s not because of Randy Bobandy here, him making an inane, alienating comment is his gimmick at this point and should be expected. It’s t because I found that if I play a game on release I end up playing the worst version of the game. And then I never play expansions because I rarely replay games and I’m not about to play an expansion to a game I haven’t played in a year without replaying the base game again.

    So I buy games a year late, at half the price. I love gaming.

    • @Zulu@lemmy.world
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      91 month ago

      Love doing this with modern atlus games. Cant wait to buy the “royal golden reloaded remaster collection” edition for $20 from a used/third party retailer.

    • @Flemmy@lemm.ee
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      329 days ago

      Borderlands 3 was fun but like a final piece to this genre. Many guns, amusing storyline, corny humor and great world design.

  • HarkMahlberg
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    I thought it would be Swen making the comment, happily surprised to see it’s someone else at Larian.

  • fistac0rpse
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    Will Borderlands 4 be an Epic exclusive like 3? Really fighting an uphill battle there

    • Mister_Feeny
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      No, it will be on steam day one. They had to figure out a new way to shoot their sales numbers in the foot.