This is what American public wanted. 🤗
Cutting benefits for the poorest.
Recipe for civil unrest, riots.
Riots mean more militarization of police, more authoritarianism, and domestic camps like Arpaio’s shitholes.
Now you have opportunity for forced labor to take the place of the exploited migrant labor we used to have.
Republicans just wanted to put minorities back in the fields as essentially slaves.
It’s almost like they aren’t aware of this piece of history
Gonna be honest with you.
Americans don’t have the balls.
Hope I’m wrong. Pretty sure I’m not.
You know, the last ten years have been a whole lot of “no way that will happen” and then that thing happens. I never ever would have believed that Luigi would have caused the kind of outpouring that he did or possibly even set a UHC bankruptcy in motion. We’re sitting on a powder keg, saying it’ll never go off because the sparks never caught for long before.
As an American who is a liberal gun owner I will agree with you.
Every day more people feel like they have nothing to lose.
It’s only a matter of time until they take matters into their own hands.
That only applies to the French. That can’t happen here. ™
The red run welfare Oblast voters will enjoy their shit sandwich. Fucking morons.
Comments prove they’re masters at keeping us divided against ourselves.
“I didn’t vote for this!” - Every dumbass that voted for this.
As others have pointed out, this is social murder.
Paygo is a poison pill the GOPux passed in 1990
We see the results
Unwilling to figure out a sensible budget, their incompetence triggers automatic cuts… Next up Debt CeilingMake America Great Again, they never said for whom.
While this administration justified its urgency for punishing tariffs on Canada and Mexico due to a fentanyl crisis taking life of thousands of good Americans, the same administration is about to take life of hundreds of thousands of good Americans itself to make billionaires wealthier.
They didn’t need to if you remember who it was great for before…
Food and health. Wow
So obsessed about things named after America that they are in track for the second American revolution
Will Americans get to celebrate 250 years next year? Stay tuned…
On the DemocracyNOW broadcast today they called it social murder. I think that’s more accurate.
“Theft” implies a transfer of wealth, but that’s not how government funding works. They aren’t taking money from the poor to give it to the rich, they are just taking money from the poor because they want them to die.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
This is what nominating the lesser-evil got us.
Ah the ‘lesser evil’ nonsense to make it sound like “b b b b b both sides same!”
Neo-liberals become conservatives when their wealth is threatened.
It’s a two-pronged strategy that you’re supporting right now.
If more of you people directed your grievances towards the greedy scumbags that keep nominating establishment candidates, then we wouldn’t have this issue.
I don’t expect you to do that, though.
Followed up by demonstrating you don’t know what neoliberal means. And a strawman, And an attack. Ciao.
Oh sure, my blue county would have certainly flipped the entire rest of the red state with my singular vote. If only Democrats had inspired me to believe in them, you wouldn’t have me as your scapegoat, even though not a single thing would change.
inspired
Thank you for admitting there was no logic. You want your feelings pandered to.
Move the goalposts much?
Seeing as this is a reply to OP (a top comment), your reply makes zero sense. It literally can’t be moving the goalposts. Just shows how you’re squirming to get out of the repercussions of protest non voting. Which ironically is exactly the thought process that got you into protest non voting in the first place.
You can keep doing gymnastics. Ciao.
Willingly. We collectively deserve it.
You’re disgusting, you’re okay with genocide as long as you get your comforts. We protested evil then, and we protest evil now. You only protest inconvenience.
you’re okay with genocide
Blah blah blah.
Move on to the next boring catchphrase please. This is getting old.
Herp derp, I care more about two nations continuing an everlasting religious conflict on the other side of the planet than fascism in my own country.
We get it. You’re dumb. You don’t need to keep proving it to us.
Whether you believe in the ends justifying the means or the means justifying the end… the world you helped create was granting power to evil, putting evil in charge.
You straight up chose the side of evil. Congrats on being on the wrong side of history.
I will never, ever understand that logic. You had a choice, you made the wrong decisions, now own it. The more you justify saying that somehow orange turd mcgee was a better option makes you look like such a damn fool. And yes you said it by your action of “protest voting”. You had infinitely more opportunities to protest and affect change if Kamela was elected. Now all of your opportunities are actively being removed and the people you wanted to save are going to be exiled for a new golf course because a lot of you of “moral high ground” contributed to this bleak future. Good job.
I will never, ever understand that logic.
That’s because there was no logic. Just emotions.
You had a choice, you made the wrong decisions, now own it.
The pro-genocide protest (non-)voters have bought into the propaganda so thoroughly that I’m doubting that they’ll accept responsibility even on their deathbeds at this point. They didn’t give a shit about anyone or anything but performative actions to stroke their own egos and telling themselves that they are morally superior. There was one the other day who even admitted that they put their own SO’s life at risk but still see no fault in their actions and blame dems and strategic voters for their own choice to support making genocide worse.
You are not the fucking moral high ground. If this were a trolley problem, you’ve elected to kill five people instead of one. Even if the American left wasn’t going to move on the issue, the situation would not have been nearly as genocidal. For Ukraine, for Trans and GNC, for the homeless.
Absolutely, unequivocally, and without remorse: Go fuck yourself with a rusty crowbar.
Could argue that everyone who didnt give a fuck about genocide because it didnt directly affect them voted to kill 100,000 plus people.
Could argue that the same violence happening in Gaza, the same thought process, is exactly what’s happening here. The violence committed 3000 miles away for decades under US rule is coming home to roost.
If Americans were so pissed off about trump they would be out in the streets protesting every single day. But they’re too fat and lazy and dont know how to protect their rights. So if you want to sit there and be dickslapped by democrats pointing at Republicans and aaying they’re bad while half of them vote alongside them at every single point, then ya good luck. You’re not gonna go anywhere except further right. Get in an actual left leaning party with an actual.policy that isn’t “keep the status quo that has failed consistently going” and you might have a chance to have a democracy again.
Get in an actual left leaning party
Maybe one should START WINNING LOCAL AND STATE ELECTIONS FIRST SO THEY CAN HAVE SOME FUCKING MEMBERS IN CONGRESS.
But yeah, let’s join an effectively non-existent left leaning party with absolutely no clout because they can’t even be bothered to focus what resources they have into taking the first realistic steps of winning local elections.
Protests only work on politicians who are beholden to the people.
Trump is only driven by grift. The people who support him are only driven by power.
The whole country could protest, and it wouldn’t mean a thing to them.
We are protesting every day, but I believe we’ve surpassed any option for a peaceful return to government. Maybe… Just maybe if republicans lose every seat in the next 2 congressional elections…
Preventing people from starving and dying in the streets isn’t comforts.
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You can stop parroting propaganda now, the elections over.
That genocide you are referring to has only gotten worse under this regime, not sure why you are patting yourself on the back so hard for retaining your moral high ground while fucking over our nation too.
Kinda fuck you honestly.
You didn’t protest evil, you stepped aside and said, “I’m ok if the world gets more evil”. Your “protest” did nothing to stop or reduce the genocide, it’s gotten worse. You’ve made it less safe for people who actually want to protest the genocide. Your only action was that you feel moral superiority in your own mind.
Yep. Now protesters are being deported. I believe that everyone who sat this out over that issue has blood on their hands and I don’t care if it hurts their feelings to hear it.
We went from having a chance to having no chance.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy0ngd11yzo.amp
Their inaction isn’t entirely the reason, but a lot more people are going to be suffering than otherwise would have, all around the world.
The cuts to medical aid around the world, children going hungry, etc. Who knows, we might even get another pandemic. Wouldn’t that be rad?!
And you’re goddamn right. They ate propaganda and now get to feel good about doing nothing in their own minds.
Oh yeah, you really helped stop the genocide. How many thousands did Israel murder this week because there’s literally no one in the White House or congress even remotely trying to stop them?
Damn, really sounds like some sort of political party should have tried to capture voters interest instead of pushing the status quo that has been suffocating folks for their whole life.
“Democrats aren’t perfect. Let’s allow the fascists to win.”
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This shit is so fucking lazy.
Biden enacted plenty of progressive asks during his term. Harris outlined plenty of progressive asks in her campaign as well.
Just because it wasn’t 100% of what YOU personally wanted doesn’t mean it wasn’t good legislation.
Hope none of your family dies because of this, because if they do it’s on you, mr protest voter.
Biden? Progressive? lol that’s funny
The Democrats fumbled appealing to progressives, independents, and undecided voters. That’s a lot more that just one guy you are responding to
Biden? Progressive? lol that’s funny
Can I give you a pro life tip?
Let people wonder whether you’re dumb or not. Don’t prove to them that you are.
Biden was one of, if not the most progressive president, in our lifetimes. That is a FACT.
But of course you don’t know that.
The Democrats fumbled appealing to progressives, independents, and undecided voters.
By running on universal healthcare and taxing the rich? No, Republicans ran the most effective propaganda campaign in the history of this country (with the help of Russian disinformation) and it worked, because Americans are braindead stupid.
Funny how Biden brought up price gouging but then never acted on it
Funny how they brought up corporations buying elections and then never acted on it.
Funny how they could have enshrined abortion or medicaid into law and decided not to because they couldn’t even get their own house together to vote for it because they’re all paid for by corporations and Israel.
Funny how they couldn’t do the basic moral thing and not finance fully a genocide.
Funny how they didnt reach across to any left leaning voters but instead paraded around a family of genocidaires. Funny how they kept leaping to the right instead of even trying to stay as a democratic party.
Funny how they’ve rigged their own elections since Obama in 08.
Funny how you have no citations but still spread misinformation around.
Here are some facts with citations :
More drugs are coming from the US to Canada. Not the other way around.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-complaints-drugs-guns-border-1.7457605
They were quite literally funding a genocide and then somehow thought pointing out [the very real] fascist intent of the Republican plans would play in their favor.
Edit: it seems none of you have understood my point.
You mean this? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/republican-congressperson-wants-to-nuke-gaza-into-surrender/ar-AA1FiCdJ Sorry that’s the GOP.
At no point did I say Republicans were not also backing genocide. Only that, maybe, just maybe, Democrats could have NOT done so, to give people an actual choice on that issue.
I understand you prefer binary arguments where saying one bad thing about someone automatically means the opponent has to be good on that topic, but the world doesn’t work like that.
Only that, maybe, just maybe, Democrats could have NOT done so
Like, do you not grasp that international relations is a thing?
Do you not fathom that when an important ally, the most important in the Middle East, ramps up a conflict they’ve had with another nation for our entire lives, that it’s not exactly a simple subject? That you can’t just say “Welp, you’re being mean to someone else, so fuck you our relationship is over”?
Biden repeatedly spoke out against Netanyahu’s tactics. He started threatening to hold up arms shipments and impose sanctions. These are the proper steps to take before resorting to losing one of your most important allies.
Then Americans chose fascism and now the situation is much worse.
Dude they want to nuke Gaza, while Biden was pushing for peace. But to you it’s all the same and “b b b b both sides same”. This is why you project “you prefer binary arguments”. Ciao.
They literally refuse to admit that an entire apparatus of a party wanting something, and then a handful of members wanting something of another party are not the same.
Then they have the gall to complain that the democrats didn’t personally promise them a pony and a unicorn so they didn’t vote.
Oh no! Its not like the dems didnt drop the equivalent of 5 nuclear bombs on gaza anyway…
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Lol super weird attempt at “b b b both sides same”.
The percentage of people who don’t vote hasn’t changed much in 100 years. Call them lazy, uneducated, apathetic, etc, it makes no difference. They don’t vote and that’s all there is to be said about it. If you’re waiting around for them to start voting for your preferred candidate you’re going to be waiting for the rest of your life. Stop talking about them and start making other plans.
There is plenty of discussion how this last election people didn’t move rightwards, they moved couchwards. The absolute numbers voting for president went down substantially. I bet a good number of those were protest non voters.
The difference in non-voters between 2020 and 2024 was enough to swing the election.
And it swung the 2020 election. Biden still holds the record for the most votes of any president ever, Trump was number 2 for the most votes ever in that same election.
You cannot swing for the center and hope to flip some republicans. They vote on a single issue, and that issue is usually, “who will hurt the people I hate most”. They like to play it off as “Fiscally republican” or some other shit, but it’s all lies and falls apart if you pull on the threads of their reasoning.
Yeah maybe its the job of the politicians to go out and get peoples votes and listen to what they’re concerned about rather than just sitting there saying well you have to vote for us cuz that guys worse
If you’re so entitled you need to be personally courted to stand up against fascism then Idk what to tell you.
They ran on universal healthcare and taxing the rich. Their sitting president was one of, if not the most, progressive president in our lifetimes with a strong economic recovery record. They even listened when their base told them Biden was too old and gave them a younger candidate.
Just admit that the dumbfucks that voted 3rd party or didn’t vote were single issue losers who couldn’t see the forest for the trees and now we have fascism in America.
Like another plan like move out of the country to somewhere smart ?
so only non voters and MAGATS are left behind to shoot them selves in the foot
I think they are already doing that.
Biden butchered children by the tens of thousands. I want to fucking die because I voted for that monster.
Take your clown nonsense elsewhere, clown. 🤡
Huh, I had no idea Biden was Prime Minister of Israel. I’d always heard it was that Netanyahu guy.
…he gave him the weapons. And kept giving them after knowing what was happening…
And now thankfully Trump has stopped the genocide, oh wait he accelerated it.
With Kamala there was a chance things would have changed. The dems were at least applying pressure to Israel to find a resolution. I have plenty of criticisms and am pissed we spent tax dollars arming Israel.
However, now our government is enthusiastically supporting the elimination of Gaza. So yeah that didn’t pan out
My point was maybe Democrats could have differentiated themselves a bit better by NOT BACKING A GENOCIDE like the Republicans were very willing to do.
People stayed home because the choice between some genocide and genocide isn’t a compelling one. But democratic leadership is bought and paid for by AIPAC
lol the weird Facebook propaganda gets weirder by the day.
Oh well, since you’re spreading propaganda: I’m gonna counter with facts that US MAGA are hiding from the general public :
Because Canada hasn’t made abortion illegal: it has had lower rates of abortion among population comparison
https://www.arcc-cdac.ca/media/position-papers/54-US-Canada-Abortion-Law-Policy.pdf
Go back to Reddit.
To huff your own farts, bot.
Ps: to offset your fake bullshit propaganda: I’m gonna expose some truth:
US pays 10 X for insulin on what Canada buys it at.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cost-of-insulin-by-country
Do… Do you think I’m pro-US?
I hate this demon shit hole country.
Clearly I’m a Russian agent sent to sow dissent on this underwater basket weaving forum. 🙄
“Queermunist”, implying you are both queer and communist.
Mate you… you know you are the first group of people the turd wants to get rid of?
You deserve what’s coming for you, because you are the one asking for it, so when they come for you (because, unless there’s a very significant change, it’s not an if but a when), remember that you voted for it.
Imagine telling a minority “you deserve to be killed by fascists because you didn’t vote for my preferred candidate.”
It’s like they say! Scratch a liberal…
It’s like they say! Scratch a liberal…
It’s not like “they” say. It’s what idiots say.
Imagine telling someone you’re fine with queer people being killed at home, because you’re so entitled that you sat out to defend those people.
Did I say I was fine with this? I just believe we can do things other than wait for the next election to stop it from happening. Get organized, get a gun, and get ready.
Are you going to act? Or are you going to sit on your ass and wait for another election that is never going to come?
Because if you’re waiting for the next election to stop fascism you are going to lose.
It’s called self preservation and acknowledging that America’s voting system is fundamentally flawed. You vote for harm reduction not perfection.
It’s easier to fight against the genocide in Israel when you’re not under a fascist government in your own country
I refuse to choose genocide for self preservation.
In fact, I kind of want to die just for my role as a passive participant in the genocide. I think about Aaron Bushnell a lot.
Imagine being part of a minority that a president has vowed to hunt and actively or passively help that president come to power so he can hunt you.
I live in a red state, my vote doesn’t even fucking count in this shit hole country.
Don’t be so modest, you’re excited for me to get murdered for being disobedient. That’s why you won’t lift a finger to resist fascism. Voting is the limit of your participation in politics and you aren’t going to be allowed to vote fascist away.
I won’t be surprised when volunteer to be one of the camp guards because you think you can change the system from the inside.
Please tell me how Trump is any measure in comparison to Biden, go ahead, I’ll wait, you’re so full of shit. It’s leaking out your ears.
Yeah, he personally turned 26487 children into various meat products for the whit house barbecue. He’s a surprisingly good chef, though. Those spare ribs were the best I ever had.
He personally ensured Israel had the bombs and international legal protection necessary to murder all those children. He did everything he could to guarantee those children died in twisted shieking agony. In fact, many of them did burn to death and he his personally responsible for cooking them alive.
Let me put it this way: I don’t feel like I deserve to live anymore for my role in the genocide.
Do you feel innocent?
You’re the whiniest drama queen I’ve come across so far on Lemmy.
Do you feel innocent?
Yes. Because our 2 options were a fascist, and a Liberal. Liberals may suck, but they can be worked with, and reasoned with. Fascists don’t have that perk.
Liberals are just fascists with better PR. They absolutely cannot be reasoned with, as evidenced by the democrats being exactly as complicit in the genocide as the republicans. No reasoning has managed to convince that party that Palestine deserves to exist.
Just admit what you really mean:
“The democrats may be just as genocidal outside of our country, but at least they’re not genociding inside our country like the republicans would”.
Or, put simply, “the democrats are evil in a way that doesn’t impact me”.
Well aren’t you mentally insane…dude go see a psychiatrist.
Do you dispute that the US armed Israel for their genocide?
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Not “Biden’s Genocide”. Israel was bombing Gaza before we sent a DIME of aid and they will continue with or without us until someone forces them to stop.
If you are going to spread propaganda with no citation; I’m spreading fact WITH citation regarding the truth of what the MAGA are hiding and trying to distract from:
The average American spends way more in prescriptions vs other countries
I’ll take “Clown Takes” for $500, Alex.
Enjoy that moral superiority when ICE comes and takes you away.
Source?
Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.
Hope none of your family died in the years before Trump like the hundreds of thousands of others who die each year from easily fixable causes but weren’t because they lived in status quo America.
Quick question, do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?
Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.
Are you stupid? His legislation was VERY progressive. Guy was even the first president IN HISTORY to forgive student loans and to stand on a picket line with striking workers.
do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?
Yes, but not even close to as responsible as I hold American voters for failing their civic duty.
How many billions of dollars in student loan debt did Biden cancel? How much more would have been cancelled if the supreme court didn’t act in a blatantly partisan manner?
Yeah, I do hold them responsible. Shumer shouldn’t be in leadership and AOC should be on every high profile committee there is.
Not voting solves nothing. You know how you get more progressive legislation passed? By voting for the party that has progressives in it. That’s how. More democrats means more people like AOC. It doesn’t fucking matter if your personal rep is a god damned blue dog if it means there’s one less republican in congress.
How many billions in student loan debt did Biden create by helping establish the predatory student-loan system as it currently exists?
Oh so a person helps fix a problem they were part of, and for you that’s not enough.
God you people are so tiring.
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What the fuck are you talking about lol
Dear non voters: You’re hurting no one but yourselves.
So I dunno who you thought you were threatening. But You’re dumb.
So, between someone who doesn’t allign 100% with my views and it’s not a nazi and an actual nazi, much better to choose the nazi, right? I mean, I guess it’s your vote so you can do as you please with it, but I reaaaaaally hope you don’t get any of what’s coming for you, because you know… you voted for all this so there is no empathy left in me for someone who’s getting what they asked for.
there is no empathy left in me for someone who’s getting what they asked for
Is that really something you think anyone here will care about? whether you “have empathy” for them? You have a wildly overinflated ego buddy. Have empathy, dont have it-- it doesnt matter to anyone. But if you could be less tedious and noisy we’d all appreciate that. Why dont you try that angle? Threaten to be yourself unless we do what you want.
“you have a wildly inflated ego, buddy”
writes dissertation on why they don’t care, because their opinion is the one that matters
Salty, much?
Are you trying to tell me that pushing to re-elect a guy who was falling apart at the seams and currently has advanced cancer, who previously won by virtue of the other guy’s approval rating being in the toilet… then replacing him with someone who would have been completely blown out in a primary at the last minute so she couldn’t even mount a good campaign who then got hobbled by her PR team into not mounting any sort of attacks of any meaningful value… are you trying to tell me that they did something wrong???
Are you trying to tell me that pushing to re-elect a guy who was falling apart at the seams and currently has advanced cancer, who previously won by virtue of the other guy’s approval rating being in the toilet
All of these things are better than a felon rapist traitor who is flagrantly disregarding the Constitution. Keep in mind that when you vote for a candidate, you aren’t just voting for them, you are voting for their party to have power as well.
then replacing him with someone who would have been completely blown out in a primary at the last minute
It’s literally what their constituents asked for. They kept complaining that Biden was too old and it would cost him the election. So they gave their constituents a younger candidate. There was not time for a primary.
But none of this matters. It was non-fascists vs fascists and it was pretty fucking obvious and Americans failed that open book test.
And if they don’t, let’s be sure to actively allow much worse people to take over, that’s sooooo much better.
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I really just wanna point out that this person didn’t say anything other than criticize the Democratic Party for ineffectually marketing their ideas. If you hire a marketing company to advertise your product and their campaign spectacularly fails even though your product is obviously much better for consumers than everything else, would you be mad at the consumers for not understanding how your technology works or would you be mad at the marketing company for doing a very bad job at convincing the public of your very obviously much better solution?
This isn’t buying an air fryer.
This is politics.
It is every American’s civic duty to inform themselves responsibly and not rely on a political party to formulate their reality for them with TV ads.
Every American who did their civic duty and informed themselves responsibly voted for the party that wasn’t promising fascism.
People need to know the scientific method and they need to do actual factual research on their own before spouting off online about stuff they knownothing about
I’m just wondering, but do you think that a political party that is literally apparently unable to convince enough people to vote against a literal fascist sounds like they understand politics very well either?
Apathy grows in America every day and it is by far and above a corporate move to make everybody not give a shit about anything so yeah, I blame Corporate America versus the actual Democratic Party. If everybody who didn’t vote voted for Kamala, we wouldn’t be in this mess. I also take issue with everything political being turned into political meme, thereby robbing it of its actual importance
Like do you see how this is kind of like refusing to be angry at a fire department that just stood in front of your house while it burned down because technically they weren’t the ones that started the fire and then getting angry at people who are getting angry at the fire department on your behalf because you’re wondering why they’re not angry at arsonists instead? Have you considered that like you can be angry at a lot of different people all at the same time for a lot of good reasons and that being angry at a corporation though isn’t going to change anything but being angry at the Democrats might change the Democrats, so long people don’t literally resist trying to improve the Democratic Party and make it more effective at convincing people to vote against fascism
If everybody who didn’t vote voted for Kamala…
The same could be said about third-parties with better policy plans winning their first election.
It sounds like you should heed your own advice.
Oh shit, you got me with the Uno reverse I’m in shambles🥳🥳🥳🥳
The US has run out of sympathy from the rest of the world. This is what you voted for, this is what you allow to happen, this is your due. Either fix it or learn to live without healthcare.
I learned to live without healthcare a long time ago
Yep. The plan has long been work, get sick, die.
This is America
When did I have healthcare again?
