cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/38426659
The shooting of Robert Dotson, 52, in the northwestern New Mexico city of Farmington prompted a civil lawsuit by his family members, though public prosecutors found there was no basis to pursue criminal charges against officers after a review of events. The suit alleged that the family was deprived of its civil rights and officers acted unreasonably.
Hearing a knock at the door late on April 5, 2023, Dotson put on a robe, went downstairs and grabbed a handgun before answering. Police outside shined a flashlight as Dotson appeared and raised the firearm before three police officers opened fire, killing him. Dotson did not shoot.
“Ultimately, given the significant threat Dotson posed when he pointed his firearm at officers … the immediacy of that threat, the proximity between Dotson and the defendant officers, and considering that the events unfolded in only a few seconds, the court finds that the defendant officers reasonably applied deadly force,” U.S. District Court Judge Matthew Garcia said in a written court opinion.
The judge also said the officers were entitled under the circumstances to qualified immunity — special legal protections that prevent people from suing over claims that police or government workers violated their constitutional rights.
And there it fucking is.
“Qualified immunity” has very few qualifications.
Good thing everyone had a gun, for safety
Maybe things would turn out better if everyone wielded two guns, maybe three.
With tariff’s kids may only get one gun this Christmas. Instead of 2 or 3, or 14.
Little kids age 17, 5, maybe even 10, 11, or 13.
Just one more gun, bro. Bro, I swear
Nipple piercings that can’t support, hold & fire a handgun are getting banned.
Genitalia that can’t do the same too.
Also any birds on private property should let the owner of that property access their firepower & auto-targeting.
And everyone should have a bigger one than everyone else.
Three Gun Style: Ham… BURGER!
As if being unarmed prevents being shot dead by police.
They didn’t need a gun to murder George Floyd.
So if I want to kill someone all I have to do is knock on their door late at night and wait for them to brandish a firearm?
And be in the most important protected class: cop.
Only if you’re a cop. If you’re not a cop, you have to call the anonymous cop tip line and tell them you heard shouting and smelled marijuana.
Obviously don’t do this. People could end up for real dead.
Looks like an endless spiral of gun violence. A bit like Schrödingers gun ownership law. You are allowed to own a gun and you are allowed to protect yourself and your family with a gun - but then you are not allowed to do so when the police is at your door, cause they have the right to shoot you if you own a gun and use it to protect yourself.
Just wow. But guns are never the problem, am I right?
Ah and of course ACAB, like seriously
The monopoly on violence is real
Hobbes was right.
Don’t forget that you don’t know if someone is actually a cop in the moment, or even if they are, you can’t know if they’re one of the trigger happy cops who are just looking to kill someone.
Police State Things ✨💅
it seems to me that, given qualified immunity, and the cavalier attitude of cops with guns, it’s reasonable to make preemptive strikes against law enforcement for your own self defense.
i don’t think it’s illogical to say that every dead cop makes this country safer.
I learned long ago there are only 2 kinds of cops.
Bad cops and worse cops.
This is likely due to free masonry and the judge and cops both having membership at lodges.
No reasonable person thinks a cop randomly showing up at night out of idiocy, and an older man waking up and grabbing a gun, and being shot is acceptable, or justified, on account of the fact that the police were there because of sheer illiteracy.
Must be nice to be part of that cult.
I’m very anti cops, but as I read how he pointed the gun, I have a hard time supporting this lawsuit. The part about showing up at the wrong address I can still support unless the caller told them specifically his address. I didn’t continue reading at that point because I lost interest when he raised his firearm.
So whats your favorite flavor of boot? Seeing as how you lick them so willingly you must have a preference.
You dunno shit about me.
I know you lick boots.
Get fucked.
LOL
Hearing a knock at the door late on April 5, 2023, Dotson put on a robe, went downstairs and grabbed a handgun before answering. Police outside shined a flashlight as Dotson appeared and raised the firearm before three police officers opened fire, killing him. Dotson did not shoot.
The story does not specify whether or not the officers ever identified themselves. If they didn’t, then from his perspective he went to answer his door only to have a bright light in his face.
“I am very anti cop”
Proceeds to be pro cop.
Fucking bootlickers are all the same and they think the rest of us are as stupid as they are.
“I’m very anti-cop, as long as people don’t do anything to defend themselves against irrational abuses of cops”
Fuck you. I bought The End of Policing (a book advocating socialism) for multiple family members. Using critical thinking is what distinguishes intelligent arguments from outright dogma.
Please read up on military rules of engagement. You don’t start shooting until they do. Our police force are ridiculous cowards who shoot before thinking all the time.
Why can our soldiers wait but our policemen can’t. This is just one thought experiment of many that will lead you away from your current mentality. Police are trained so wrong on so many levels.
So pardon me when I call bullshit on your “they saw him raise his gun.” We have more guns than American citizens in the US. They unfortunately can’t start shooting until there is a real threat and holding or even pointing a gun is not a credible threat when you are conducting a sanctioned home invasion, which I might add are almost always unnecessary.
Maybe they shouldn’t of shone a light at him making him unable to identify that it was cops. They used the light for obfuscation and it ruined his target recognition. It’s still their fault. It’s all their fault.
USA, land of the free where you first encourage people to have their own firearms for self defense and then shoot them for it
That’s what he gets for checks notes… living at the wrong address.
Methinks that “qualifications” didn’t factor in to this immunity at all.
Did the police cars have theirs lights on? If Dotson failed to notice that, then is paranoia prevailed too.
