• comfy
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        It’s more complex than that, and a protest has more important benefits than a mere direct message (incl. networking), but a ruler or military/police won’t change their mind because a million people said “I don’t like this”. There needs to be some threat, like a strike or even violence, to make them suddenly care about ethics.

        • @blakenong@lemmings.world
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          825 days ago

          Strikes are useless nowadays, at least for government change in the US. The government just says “ok, strike.” And then knows you’ll stop eventually.

          • @Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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            That’s inaccurate. Hell the government hates strikes so much, some states have passed legislation making collective bargaining, and strikes illegal. When a government tries to tell you that doing something reasonable is wrong, and in fact illegal, that means it’s working.

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            The government just says “ok, strike.”

            Got any examples? Because what’s first coming to mind for large modern strikes is the train strike that the Biden government explicitly outlawed. (before the environmental disaster in West Palestine, Ohio)

          • @SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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            125 days ago

            I think that if the US government is overhauled, guaranteed UBI would be key to allowing for effective strikes. The coercive power of losing your home and going hungry is what allows the powers that be to ignore the protests of the people.

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              I agree… but the direction of the world is making it very clear that won’t happen. Heck, Denmark just raised their retirement age to 70. There is no more time for baby steps. We need literal heads on plates if we are even going to keep what we have now. Just remember, billionaires don’t change and they done give up power.

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              I think that if the US government is overhauled, guaranteed UBI would be key to allowing for effective strikes.

              In the meantime, we use voluntary strike funds for a similar effect.

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          There needs to be some threat, like a strike

          To state officials, any interruption of economic activity is a form of violence.

          One reason why they are so effective and why state police are so enthusiastic in preventing them from occurring.

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      If you divide the data into red states and blue states, you’ll see that police killings have fallen in blue states, but risen in red states.

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    The definition of Armed needs some context.

    Police are always armed. Does that meanwe should shoot them on sight?

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    fatal police shootings in more-Democratic states have declined 15 percent on a population-adjusted basis, with the rate holding relatively steady since Mr. Floyd’s death.

    But in Republican-leaning states, they have risen 23 percent. And within those redder states, exurbs and rural areas, which tend to be more conservative than cities, have the highest rates of police killings.

    You’re telling me that in republican bastion states of lower education, less unions, less social spending, and more racism, is tied to more violence and a greater amount of extra-judicial killings by the state-sanctioned corporation-protectors? But they have almost 4 weeks of training! How could this possibly be??

    But don’t worry! They’re trying to make it worse! Far worse!

    This week, the Justice Department said it would no longer investigate or oversee nearly two dozen police departments that were accused of civil rights violations, including in Minneapolis and Louisville, Ky. And in April, President Trump signed an executive order aimed at “unleashing” law enforcement, including by directing the U.S. attorney general to “provide legal resources” to defend police officers accused of wrongdoing.

  • @ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    The growth in ‘unknown’ accounts for both the rise in armed and fall in unarmed.

    The systemic problem was ignored, so it makes sense the only major change is more uncertainty.

  • @tomi000@lemmy.world
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    Sure is a coincidence that right after George Floyds murder, the amount of ‘unknown’ killings rose to like 5 times as high. Pretty sure those can all be booked under ‘unarmed’.

  • @Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    Not surprised, the Orange Kool-Aid drinkers are also supplying police departments with more military grade equipment.

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    Part of the increase is some forces’ answer to accusations of racism were to start killing everyone (who is poor).

  • @ZeffSyde@lemmy.world
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    So… My odds of not being shot by a cop are better if I carry a replica gun, unless I’m reading this wrong.

  • @Hux@lemmy.ml
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    Ok, so the graph shows us how police killings have gone since George Floyd, but can we see a graph of police killings since George Floyd?