What do you mean by deal?
One interesting thing I came across a while ago was that Jesus healing people was not very sensational at the time, as spiritual healers were not that rare. What blew people’s minds about the healing was that he was doing it for free.
I had a class in college about Jesus. It was taught by a Catholic priest.
One thing he said that stuck with me is that people don’t see the real miracles.
When they talk about the miracle of the loaves and fish, people talk about how enough food for the multitude was created out of just what a couple people brought for their own lunch. People think the miracle is the creation of food. However this priest pointed out that the real miracle is that people who didn’t know anyone else there gave all they had so that others could eat. Everyone shared so that no one went hungry.
Edit: one other thing that he said that stuck with me was, “Jesus Christ, son of Mary and Joe Christ”
Jesus = basically Josh, son of Mary and Joe
They just seem weird. Walk on water, not really that impressive. We fly through the sky these days I’m sure that might blow away some people who lived in jesus times. Heal the sick, that’s like a job you get and I’m sure we pulled many many people back from the brink in our age. Turned water to wine? Feed people? If he was god he had to know these miracles would be kinda lame sauce to people in a few thousand years. Why not like swim in a volcano or lasso the moon?
How the actual fuck is walking on water not impressive? I’m not a Christian, I don’t necessarily believe it happened, but yeah, that would probably blow some people’s minds.
I mean that’s pretty cool, but it’s a lizard, not a man. You’re saying if you saw a human walk on water you wouldn’t be impressed?
It would be novel i guess
Them deal was they fictional.
Remember the prime directive.
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No, not true. Go read Wikipedia for some reliable sources on the historical existence of Jesus of Nazareth.
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I said go there for some reliable sources.
You want evidence of the historical Jesus, that article contains almost 300 references and about 40 external sources.
The existence of Jesus of Nazareth is widely accepted. If you believe otherwise, you need to provide extraordinary evidence for your extraordinary claims.
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There are usually sources listed on Wikipedia articles
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Do you notice the comment you replied to explicitly said “first hand” and you explicitly said “reliable”.
You are talking about different things.
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So they were just picked at random?
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Obviously not, Herakles was named that as Zues’ hamfisted attempt to appease the wife he cheated on by naming his bastard after her
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You can make fun of religion nowadays, sure, very original, or ignore the question and talk about historical accuracy, alright. But if you want an answer what is compelling and mythical about these stories, try not to take them literal. Just like fairytales, they have something psychological about them. E.g. when Jesus made the blind see, this is about depression and how it is cured. Try to cast a friendly eye on the whole topic.
Did he really do them though? The reason why this is within the scope of belief is the fact that there’s no conclusive evidence that removes reasonable doubt by contemporary standards.
Let’s say it’s all exactly as it says in the four different versions that are somehow considered canon and none of it is a millennia old game of telephone: did he choose to do them? Did his dad force him? Could he maybe not have had free will in this regard? Do we know about all the miracles? Maybe there were more! Would it be fair for us today to judge him based on incomplete records?
He’s a fictional character.
Jesus absolutely existed, even Atheist or anti-Christian historians don’t debate that he was a real person.
Jesus was a common name un that time. He was made up.
All fictional characters can do miracles?
No miracles were done.
Fact
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Not sarcasm. Christianity is lies created to control people. Just like all religions.
Yeah that’s clearly the Lemmy hive mind opinion.
Not a “hivemind” opinion. That’s what I’ve learned from Christianity itself. From decades of indoctrination, I eventually opened my eyes to how full of shit it all is.
The physical miracle demonstrates his identity and power, but they have a spiritual significance beyond the physical. For example, raising the dead indicated that He is the Creator with power over life and death, but also that He can give spiritual life to people dead in their sins.
Jesus was only reading the script. It was all setup by his father.
Remember if you want to be a God you need a Godfather, and I’m not talking about Pacino.
Jesus basically teached us, how fucked we are, if we’re born poor.
