• ElcaineVolta
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    if someone says they are christian, they are. I look at this person and see a perfect example of a religious person.

    • @Hasherm0n@lemmy.world
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      3025 days ago

      My Dad had a saying I always really liked.

      “You don’t have to be a Christian to be a good person and you don’t have to be a good person to call yourself a Christian.”

      • ElcaineVolta
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        not being a christian is a great shortcut to being a better person.

        • dustycups
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          625 days ago

          Stalin, Ghengis Khan, Pol Pot, etc. Shortcuts can lead to cliffs.
          I’m not suggesting that there aren’t some terrible, terrible Christians out there too.

            • dustycups
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              I’m afraid you’re going to have to spell that out for me.
              I do kind of regret the Mongolian example though. It was interesting to find out about nestorianism & his religious tolerance.

              edit: an extra full.stop.

              • @plyth@feddit.org
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                123 days ago

                You seem to already have half of it. Dschingis Khan has fought slavery and given the debate about nuclear bombs, used violence wisely.

                Pol Pot, I don’t know if there is a reason to justify the killings.

                Stalin, you can either go the way of his education, which means that his cruelty is rooted in a Christian upbringing. Or you could look at the disclosed CIA Stalin memo that reveals that most of his image is western propaganda. Or you could look at the decline after him and realize that whatever he did (or at least most of it) was necessary given the circumstances.

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        I would say that before you can become a Christian you first have to realize that you aren’t a good person, but if you call yourself a Christian and say you are a good person, you are neither.

        “Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst.” — 1 Timothy 1:15, NIV

    • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      124 days ago

      if someone says they are christian, they are.

      Then you can’t hold someone who says they are a Christian accountable for the actions of other people who say they are Christian. Nor does the descriptor “Christian” tell you anything about a person other than the fact that they say they are a Christian.

      Afterall, someone who believes there is no God, and that it’s fine to torture, rape, and kill anytime your feel like, is a Christian as long as they say they are.

  • @Fandangalo@lemmy.world
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    James 2

    14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

    Matthew 6

    5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

  • @Lucky_777@lemmy.world
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    2825 days ago

    Religion is the true cancer of society. MAGA is the side effects of that cancer. Makes sense because most MAGA are highly religious.

    • froufox
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      2825 days ago

      Any ideology raised to fanatism is dangerous. Tankies are usually atheists

    • riwo
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      1225 days ago

      i disagree. i think spirituality can be amazing and make life and good values even more complete.

      i see issues in hierarchies, domination, and hate. not all religion but probably all dominat religion.

      • @Apytele@sh.itjust.works
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        Christianity was a fabulous anti-establishment death cult that taught there was no higher honor than being gruesomely murdered by the state for loudly proclaiming their inadequacies. Then the council of Nicaea happened and they BECAME the establishment aaaand… My conversion to Gnosticism of going fabulous thank you for asking. It’s not OG flavor Christianity if you’re not actually being persecuted!

  • Evkob (they/them)
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    My brain is just now upon seeing this post processing why right-wingers always accuse the left of virtue signaling; as always with conservatives, it’s projection. They virtue signal by wearing crosses while definitely not giving a hoot about the teachings of Jesus.

    They can’t imagine someone sincerely supporting a cause they care about and assume we all only do it for recognition among our peers, because that’s the way they use causes. To signal to the in-group that we are one of them.

      • Evkob (they/them)
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        424 days ago

        Virtue signaling, political correctness, woke, they’ve used a bunch of terms over the years and I don’t doubt they’ll eventually move on from woke to another term they use to mock anyone with empathy.

        • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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          124 days ago

          they still use woke, VS used by other than conservative most of the time. woke is primarily used by cons, and cons pretending to be on the other side.

    • @Zink@programming.dev
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      This comment connects the dots so incredibly well compared with what I see from my angry conservative family.

      They can’t imagine someone sincerely supporting a cause they care about and assume we all only do it for recognition among our peers, because that’s the way they use causes. To signal to the in-group that we are one of them.

      Fuuuck, that is exactly the mindset I was raised to have, and which I very much had during my angry teenage years. Fortunately that was a long-ass time ago and in the decades since I’ve had everything from college to the internet to let me consider the thoughts and arguments of other less angry/hateful/bigoted/sociopathic people.

      • Evkob (they/them)
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        224 days ago

        My parents are pretty hippy-dippy granola types who have regularly volunteered for our local Green Party, so I’m obviously coming at this from a different perspective than you. I like to think I’d have ended up at the same conclusions I have even if I grew up with super conservative parents, but I’d probably be pretty different.

        So props to you for doing the hard work of detaching yourself from those mindsets. Of course, we all absorb some bullshit through society at large (heck I even remember, when I was just a kid, my dad making occasional “jokes” about how Indigenous people here in Canada “were lazy and got everything for free”. And my dad is rather progressive for his peer group).

        But I can only imagine it must be so much harder to detach yourself from that if your family is completely immersed into the kind of rhetoric the right has been pushing for years now.

  • @FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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    Seriously I have come to find blonde women grossly unattractive and its because of Fox News and this motherfucker.

    • @QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works
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      I found that one pissed off rant from a Young Turks journalist where’s she’s angrily saying “I DONT CARE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS” to be very attractive. I literally know nothing else about her and she could be a horrible person, but that moment of righteous indignation really had an effect on me

  • @Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world
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    624 days ago

    Untrue. Christianity is self-proclaimed. This “real Christian” bullshit is apologetic nonsense, just like “the devil made fossils.”

  • @plyth@feddit.org
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    It makes sense if she means to diss people with tattoos.

    She says “can turn” in comparison to “doesn’t”. That comparison is not balanced.

    I thought this was a quote.

    As an observation, it is literally right. There is ‘Christian’ as a path of spiriitual growth and ‘Christian’ as a gang. That golden cross is a gang symbol and works as such. Spiritually it would be wooden. Golden, it shows membership of the Christian gang.

    Tattoos work in the same way. Japanese know and treat them accordingly. At the very least tattoos of normal people make gang membership less despicable. If everybody marks themselves as non-normal, society changes.

    This is not an argument against tattoos. They are just more than a fashion symbol, while those can already be spiritually influential, as many women on diets can attest.

  • @SunshineJogger@feddit.org
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    I’d say it’s a choice as to what the symbol communicates.

    A tattoo that is art or fun creative is awesome.

    A cross, be it tattoo or necklace… Just means you promote one of humanities biggest and oldest lies.

  • katy ✨
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    324 days ago

    the fact that her husband will be 70 when her kid graduates high school (ironically the exact time when she started dating her husband who was 50) is gross

  • @plyth@feddit.org
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    Citation needed. In the age of disinformation, spreading quotes without a source is a sin.

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    Gang tattoos do. If you have a, say, MS13 tattoo and you’re not a member, and a member sees that. You’re not going to like it. It’s a membership card. But I agree with the rest. It takes more than a cross to be a Christian. Faith without works is dead.