Telegram are being paid by xAI to use their product? Isn’t it supposed to be the other way around?
I’m guessing the money flows in this direction because telegram actually has users.
The users must ask themselves if they’re the product, fucking Musk is paying for access to them.
You’re the product either way, free or not. Those days are gone.
I don’t use any of it, neither Telegram or LLMs
Having xAI accessing a billion of users conversations? They are going to have the most “educated” LLM. Also isn’t xAI getting subsidies from the government? Literalły workers of America are paying to spy, again
The funny thing is, half of Telegram is drugs, conspiracy nuts and really weird humour. The ai is going to be great, I can already see it.
AI companies paying or straight up buying other businesses to spread their disease has become their go-to strategy as of late.
integrate into it’s apps
They’re getting paid for training data.
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Long overdue :)
Agreed, but which one has easy to use bots and integration into the *arr apps? I used telegram to send notifications about new movies and episodes.
Me too. Switched to pushover. Arrrrrr apps support it just fine. And it’s free.
I really need some free time in my life to try those arrs with unraid, and telegram bots too…
good news! signal has sticker packs
If only any of my friends would have it… I have a lot of contacts on telegram, and on signal there’s like 1. Even my furry friends are not on there
There are some active chats on matrix, but I don’t know why on signal
Maybe if you tell them that an LLM is being trained on all their “private” conversations now, they will change their mind?
Them: “I’ve got nothing to hide” (slowed down and reverbed)
I tried to switch to Signal but it feels so damn barren compared to Telegram :(
I want to love it but they make it hard
My biggest gripe with it is about electron. I refuse to keep it running on my PC. Even the damned Whatsapp converted to something better.
Oof, that sucks if that’s the case
signal has sticker packs
wait it does? maybe then I can convince my contacts to move there xD Seriously stickers are the main selling point of Telegram for us
So you’re telling me that Grok is so bad that they have to pay developers to integrate it? How backwards. People are willing to pay for Grok’s competitors.
Or is xAI paying for access to Telegram conversations to train Grok?
This is the reason. Telegram has data and users that can be fed to the AI and they know it. Grok is hungry.
Well it’s gonna learn to post crypto spam ads and swastikas then. Which come to think of it… might be the point
What’s funny is the flipside to it… Telgram is absolutely fucking full of furries so grok’s gonna learn a shitload of gay leftist shit too.
to be fair, pretty much all ai is that bad these days :)
This is the real take away from all this. xAI is trying hard to keep up with the big-boys and has to pay a shit ton of money just to be in the game. xAI’s revenue will be in the deep red for a long time at this rate.
There goes my telegram account. Bye, you won’t be missed
I don’t know why people stuck with it. I’ve used it; I get that a lot of the initial success/hype was:
- It’s not owned by Meta
- “Putin hates Durov!”
- “Unlimited” storage (lots of people using it as free cloud storage, which is dumb if you value your files)
But your messages are not E2EE by default (only “Secret Chats”, which aren’t synced across devices)…Telegram (the organization) could always read your messages. I said this so many times and got called everything under the sun.
“Why would they care about my messages though?” ------> Because $300 Million.
This. The second Premium landed I was out, and it was slipping long before that.
Whelp. Same thought :(
So, a software that is owned by US politician is working together with software that has links to Russian government?
Federal government threatened Telegram and demanded a backdoor a while back, iirc.
You misunderstand. Elon is retired from US politics now, obviously, and will return to being a force of good!
Hasn’t Elon said that he’s “retiring” like every month 47 has been in office?
Just bullshit to try to appease Tesla investors.
Are we calling him a politician now? 😭
There doesn’t seem to be any such thing as “good” AI, but there’s definitely a “worst” one, and Telegram chose it. Nice job, assholes.
Well the other ones you have to pay for. This one pays you!
great advertisement for signal
Wondering how long has this been cooking? A year or so ago musk started attacking signal for no discernible reason and recommending telegram instead.
Two insane billionaire eugenicists … working together? No way. Birds of like feather stick together.
ew wtf, Telegram has been one of the less shittified ones :c
Honestly, Telegramm always seemed to me a bit shifty since I learnt E2EE for chats was opt-in.
Been saying this for years. Then they introduced Premium to “help fund things” (but they’re also taking $300 MILLION from Elon, and giving them access to user data.
So will basic features stop being paywalled now? Or are people going to have to keep paying to stop random people from messaging them?
not even available on desktop clients, or for group chats
now telegram is going to insert random information about South African White genocide to every conversation. or it will be in every recommended reply at least.
Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal
- Matrix (Element etc…)
- XMPP
- Session
- SimpleX
- Signal
- GNU-Jami
- Briar
Briar would be great if I knew anyone who was willing to use briar
Element here all the way!
How is Signal financed?
Donations and grants.
Donations I believe.
How is it for file sharing? It’s my main use of telegram
If anybody still believed in Telegram’s trustworthiness, it should now be dispelled.
(Only kidding, there’s plenty of people who still “believe” in both Durov and Musk)
I’ll think about if they also somehow prohibit 3rd party clients from removing that AI garbage.
Nail no.1 in the coffin for me was when this Durov guy sent an unsolicited telegram-wide message on election day in my country, claiming French interference in our elections.
This is nail no.2 in the coffin.
Guess I’ll get off my lazy arse and delete my telegram account now
