• @aeronmelon@lemmy.world
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    18513 days ago

    Clarification: They are queuing for cheap rice.

    I can go to any supermarket in my city and buy rice. I just have to be willing to pay four times what I’m used to for it. It is getting harder to find supermarkets still selling 10kg bags because those things are approaching ¥10,000.

    Japan has had a more severe shortage of potato chips than this.

    • @Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works
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      2413 days ago

      Isn’t it not just cheap rice, but cheap Japanese rice? People in Asia are very particular about rice. They should be, rice from Japan, China, Cambodia, Taiwan, etc. all have a different taste. Nationalism plays in to it, but they are different. I think rice might be the ultimate Terroir crop.

        • @Railcar8095@lemm.ee
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          913 days ago

          Look, I’m not particular about rice, but if I see long rice on the risotto, what I’ll do isn’t even covered in the Geneva conventions.

          • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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            713 days ago

            …that’s exactly what I mean. All the broken bits and pieces get shipped to Germany to make Milchreis because it really doesn’t matter what the grains look like if you’re soaking them to smithereens anyway. Into pudding, that is. Which you should totally try on a cold day: Dump into sweetened milk (vanilla if you want), quick boil, 30-40 minutes of soaking at falling/low heat, add cinnamon, maybe some coarse raw sugar for texture variation, eat as-is or with apple sauce.

            Only got Jasmin or such at home and still crave the stuff? Well, prepare it. Nothing’s stopping you.

    • @djmikeale@lemm.ee
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      1913 days ago

      That is wild! In Denmark I buy rice for 15 kr (~2€) / kg. Granted, it’s probably nowhere near the quality of Japanese rice. But still, what a price difference.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        2413 days ago

        Setting aside the rice shortage, the Japanese government has laws in place to keep rice prices high for… I have no idea why. A big part of the shortage is that blowing up in their faces.

        • @arcterus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          3713 days ago

          I’m guessing it’s to protect the rice farmers, since if the price decreases enough, they’ll have to either produce other crops or do something else entirely. They’re already having enough problems with people moving to cities, so I doubt they want to create even more incentive.

          • @KMAMURI@lemmy.world
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            813 days ago

            Farms in Japan are likely disappearing as they are elsewhere. Attempting to protect domestic supply isn’t a bad idea. Doing it in a way that is not detrimental to the population would probably be helpful.

    • @scarabic@lemmy.world
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      1813 days ago

      for cheap rice

      But isn’t this just the definition of a shortage? The thing becomes scarce and so what IS available becomes incredibly expensive? I don’t see the differentiation you are trying to make. Wild price inflation happens when there is in fact not enough of the thing to go around.

  • @ramble81@lemm.ee
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    14813 days ago

    Japan’s long-standing efforts to protect domestic farmers from outside competition, including limiting imports of foreign rice

    Here’s the why in case anyone is wondering. It’s not a global issue.

    • @HeyJoe@lemmy.world
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      1813 days ago

      Maybe they should have had a plan B for situations like this. It’s great to take care of your own, but this is a perfect example as to why you can’t put all your eggs into one basket.

    • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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      712 days ago

      Japan seems hell bent on not taking any steps to improve things. They have serious issues with population demographics and they are really shit about allowing immigrants in to work in the likes of agriculture.

    • @DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      Not quite, because the reason they don’t want to buy from overseas is because they’ve had three decades trapped in a deflation crisis. So every time they buy anything from overseas it shows the weak buying power of the Japanese yen (which is a product of the deflationary “lost years”).

      …so there’s a unique economic context for why they’re acting this way.

      • @scarabic@lemmy.world
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        312 days ago

        I guess when your currency is weak you need to focus on domestic independence and be very judicious about foreign purchasing.

      • @joel_feila@lemmy.world
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        112 days ago

        Well they stagnated abd everyone else went up. It actually a really interesting case study in how a stagnated economy can run and why it can’t.

      • @Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        613 days ago

        Staple carb. It’s supposed to be the bare minimum in cheap and regularly consumed food. After that society’s just a few missed meals away from people rioting.

      • Humanius
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        12 days ago

        Failed wheat harvest which caused a bread shortage.
        Bread was a staple food in 18th century France.

        I’m not quite sure if it is similar to the rice shortage in Japan today however. When the French couldn’t eat bread in the 18th century they went hungry, but when the Japanese today can’t buy rice they can just buy a different carb.

        Its the difference between barely scraping by on bread, and being inconvenienced by not being able to buy cheap rice.

    • @fireweed@lemmy.world
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      1813 days ago

      Rice grown in former plantation states tends to be very high in arsenic, a holdover from the cotton-growing days.

      For US-grown rice, my understanding is that California-grown is much safer to consume.

      • Jimmybander
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        211 days ago

        So that’s why we always rinse the rice. Interesting. Will have to get some Cali rice.

    • @silicon_reverie@lemmy.world
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      1913 days ago

      You can’t call it free market capitalism when you’re literally restricting who can and can not import rice and then getting upset at yourself for the self-inflicted starvation. This isn’t capitalism, it’s the very definition of Protectionism, and yes: closed-matket protectionists are failing everywhere, from Brexiteers to MAGA morons, to closed-market rice farmers.

      This isn’t to say that unfettered Capitalism is the answer, or that all protectionist policies are bad. Any policy taken to the extreme is guilty of the real sin: not learning from the strengths and weaknesses of the systems they rail against and using them to build a more robust and functional middle ground.

      • @BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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        713 days ago

        Capitalism ≠ Free Market

        Capitalism, by definition, is the pursuit and hoarding of wealth at all costs. This is ideologically opposed to the concept of a free market, because it will inevitably lead to captured markets and trusts.

        While I agree that this particular scenario is unrelated to Capitalism as it is a matter of national protectionism, I’m simply taking umbrage with using “free market” and “capitalism” in a sentence together. Capitalism will always ultimately kill a free market.

      • @NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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        413 days ago

        I’m still flabbergasted by everyone still trying to hold onto a economic system designed by elites. Yall would be the 1760s worker arguing for just a few tweeks to a system not ment for the vast majority of people. Or you’re just part of the in group that benefits you more than others. Capitalism has reached its logical conclusion just like every form that came before. The sooner we accept and realize it the better.

        • xep
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          213 days ago

          I’m sorry he put the words “free market” into your mouth when there was none of that in your post. FWIW, Japan would be worse off if cheap rice flooded the market and eradicated domestic rice production.

          • @NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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            213 days ago

            Free market just means little fish can’t compete. And eventually one company will own everything. Then they’ll come back with, trade deals and regulations. But then they don’t realize that’s compromise for a system not ment for them ! I don’t have all the answers on what a new non capitalist system would look like, but it doesn’t automatically mean socialism/communism.