Even a town I used to live in with Donald voters, more than half the town couldn’t get speed over 5 Mbps - they had to use Satellite. And the other half? We had over 800 Mbps. 2 years after Covid, the other town finally has it. Ridiculous.
Rural voters overwhelmingly voted for this. I have no sympathy. I’m downloading shit fast as fuck. And I’m using my symetric fiber to seed 24/7 the following torrents: CDC data removed from gov websites, data leak from Patriot Front (a local fascist movement in USA), and war crimes committed by IDF in Gaza. Plus a lot of porn.
Cheers, shitbags! You got what you voted for.
Frontier trounced all over Xfinity here because of this program. I now have fiber vs 300mbps (400 plan). So many blue dots around WV but the koolaid is in the water.
Could u rephrase this in a language normal people can understand?
Frontier new kid in town, big company out money as people switch. Faster internet. Republicans dominate the state but not everyone is mindless and few leftists/centrists dot the state.
Which big companies lose money? Frontier or other companies?
People switch where? To frontier or away from frontier?
Who has faster internet? Frontier or frontier competitors?What does it matter that there are leftists and centrists in the state? How does this have anything to do with the comment u writing about?
The funniest part is that it’s his voters lol
The news will probably never reach them.
Not at broadband speeds, that’s for sure.
And if it does, they’ll thank him for helping them to disconnect.
To be fair, this federal program was a cluster eff since they started it in about 2010. It passed a bunch of grant money through to the states, which all did different “things” with it. Most held semi-public meetings and planning sessions for 5-10 years or wrote detailed planning documents but never delivered any physical infrastructure (actual results to the residents).
Some states / towns hired ISPs who just pocketed the money with no consequences. Some towns even got fed up with no progress and started their own ISPs only to get sued by said corrupt ISP. Looking at you Verizon FiOS.
I’m confused. The article is talking about “BEAD” which wasn’t passed until 2021. You must be talking about a different program.
Yea he is, but it’s probably the same telecom handout bullshit like the other program.
Trump is a piece of shit, but every program he cuts is not necessarily wrong. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Still no justification for this money to be funneled to felon musk.
I’m sure that there are examples of actually wasted money, but just putting it out there that planning is fucking important. There have been several high profile projects, like Texas high speed rail, where planning was the hard part and the project got canceled as they were ready to break ground because “there was no progress”. Cue* Republicans “the government does nothing” after they stopped anything from happening. Infrastructure cannot operate on election cycle timelines.
Digging in the ground and integrating with existing infrastructure isn’t just a plug and play operation. Leases and liens need to be sorted out. Estimates of current and future demand needs to be sorted out so you don’t install useless networks. Fiber isn’t that heavy, but “can the existing conduits under bridges/roads/etc support it and/or do they have room to without a complete replacement” isn’t a trivial question for backbone lines.
Winging it just causes more problems as you find things you didn’t anticipate and cause delays while having to continue paying contracts so work can resume once the delay is cleared. If you don’t, the contractor is on to their next job and unavailable for an effectively random amount of time. While everyone is mad at you that “no work is being done”.
It could be done faster, but it would cost more. Because planning is really important to keep multi-million/billion dollar projects accountable and on track.
*Cue
Speak for yourself.
My city is rolling out fiber.
I’m in Wyoming and fiber started rolling out in multiple cities with multiple different providers in each city two years ago. They got to my house earlier this year so I now have a 2Gb/s connection.
Most of this money was also “allocated” but not really spent. So at least to Bidens credit money wasn’t thrown away, it just sat there not doing what it was supposed to do.
Funds allocated throughout the years have NEVER actually gone to providing/increasing broadband in rural areas.
Not true, just got 2Gb fiber in rural WI through a federal grant allocated 2 years ago.
Not entirely, my ISP is a family owned regional cable company and they took the grant and have rolled out fiber across multiple counties.
I get what you’re saying about the mega corps, yeah they just pocket a lot of the money. But the smaller ISPs are being smart and investing in their infrastructure to be able to complete.
Frontier took the money and said, “Watch us trounce the big boy monopoly here”
Never say never. There are actually several areas where I’ve seen fiber build out from government grants.
That said, they are EXCEPTIONALLY rare and typically scumbag ISPs pocket the money with no consequences, since nobody who writes these laws sets up consequences for failing to deliver.
I would think the tech bros running things would want more people to train their models on.
I would think that Muskrat would like more customers for his satellite internet business.
This is exactly what some of my extended family uses because there’s literally no other option. Not even cellular.
This isn’t even up in the mountains or something. This is just rural Alabama where kids are struggling to do homework because they just don’t have access, and it all but guarantees that their technology skills will remain woefully outdated.
I remember when they had DSL not that long ago and I would turn off updates on everything because it was a complete waste of time to attempt.
My grandparents lived in rural OK and had dial-up until 2018 when they finally were able to get a 2mbps DSL line. It really wasn’t much faster than the dial-up.
You mean it wasn’t able to be saturated?
As slow as 2MBit/s is, relatively speaking, it’s still magnitudes better than dial-up.
Yes, I mean it never hit its rated speed. Also that many modern sites didn’t work any better than they did on the dialup anyway.
Yeah but does Iran have nukes? Checkmate!
I DoN’t CaRe wHaT yOu sAy. NiRaN MoST DefFiNiTeLY PRoBAblY HaS NUkEs!
Well, I’m honestly not convinced they don’t. I mean, with renewables popping everywhere and providing a surplus of clean renewable non-geopolitical electricity, why would you pursue nuclear for the energy? You don’t even need to build an actual nuclear explosive, you could just make endless dirty bombs.
Iran could cover itself in solar and wind and there you go. They’d have all the electricity they need, could probably build most of the shit themselves too, and have not just plausible, but total, nuclear deniability.
If I ran had nukes, the US wouldn’t be bombing it as we speak.
Don’t think it matters when Israel’s sugar bully is always there.
Capitalism perverts all good intentions. It twists them to make a quick buck.
It’s a cancer on society.
I got mine, even though it’s 1 gb down 300 mb up, but it’s still rural fiber.
taxes subsidized it and we get to pay extra https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/11/27/americans-fiber-optic-internet/
What’s an average Internet connection like in the USA? How many megs down?
10gig symmetrical for $50/month on Sonic fiber. Still too expensive but I can’t believe the rest of the US pays so much for so little, and worse thinks it’s a great deal. Typical US speeds are 30 years behind but Americans are so very, very stupid.
10 gig is amazing!
I’m getting 270 down and 40 up. Fucking comcast has a monopoly in my area, so I’m paying $120/month for it unless I want to go back to DSL.
most areas have ISP monolopies, which is somewhat understandable given the high infrastructure costs etc. For that reason they should be regulated as utilities, but aren’t because high speed internet isn’t legally “essential” in the year of our lord 2025.
It’s not understandable at all. The telcos took nearly a trillion dollars from tax payers back in the 2000s to get broadband to everyone in the USA…and they basically stole it.
…and they basically stole it
It’s the American way. We’re honestly lucky that it wasn’t feasible for the big telecoms to build their own versions of the Internet, or there’d be several of those too.
$150 on Comcast monopoly for 200 down. I use more than 1.5tb a month and a static ip so need a business plan…
Wow. Every time I read about Comcast I’m reminded why I hate them so much.
I pay $89/mo for gigabit fiber and a static IP through a local ISP. Not comcast. Hopefully never again.
Hnnng, I’m so glad I don’t have to pay for a static ip
They own half the state :/
Lol.
Meanwhile here I am in the UK with my ADSL at 67MB down.
Lots of the UK is this way. Some of it is fast though.
Heavily depends on where you live. I live near a big city on the east coast in a largely Blue state. I have 1 gig FiOS internet (up and down). In my area Comcast and Verizon compete for customers so our speeds here are alright. But there are plenty of areas in the US that have absolutely abysmal internet. Either because the area is rural so not much infrastructure has been built up or because the ISP in that area holds a monopoly on the market and doesn’t have to increase speeds to keep their customers. I’ve heard horror stories of people being stuck with like sub 10mbps because there are just no other options.
not as fast as some third world countries, but here we worship our soon to be hanging from a fuckin noose wealthy fucks, I will fight any billionaires one on one anytime
Highest I’ve ever gotten was 200 down/10 up. My current is 50 down/10 up.
I pretty much always pay for the highest grade service in the area. Each time I’ve bought a home, I’ve researched the ISPs that service it and that also affected what the homes value was to me.
I probably have pretty close to the top of the curve with 1140mbps up/down according to my plan. In actuality though my speed test reads at 864 up and 859 down.
I pay $60/mo for 1100 down, 50 up with Verizon.
I get 100 down, 50 up, which is the max for my ISP. They’re putting in fiber this year or next, so I’ll probably upgrade once that happens.
So very glad I got to benefit from this 3 years ago, it is a true shame if it goes away. I get to be rural and work at a company in the city.
That article has a pretty extreme example: guy on 21 acres atop a steep ridge who doesn’t have phone service or running water or probably any infrastructure. There’s going to be people you can’t reach with fiber and this may be one of them. We can argue about that when the other 99% has fast internet service
Years ago my neighborhood was wired for fiber, well all except for 24 of our houses because it wasn’t profitable, copper still came on our side though… Now that’s been turned off so the 24 of us have the option of cable or wireless.
Having to stare at a coil of fiber across the street on the end of the pole (not even buried fiber, its on the damn poles) while I enjoy overpaying for 48Mbps… so fast it must be high speed (seriously debated a wireless link to the house across the street but I’m a stickler for the rules).
Even in more urban areas …. My ex asked for help getting internet service in her new condo, and I found out the entire town has fiber, except her condo development. They have an exclusive contract with ComCast and she can’t do anything about it
