• @Godnroc@lemmy.world
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      2410 days ago

      Of course they will! First you make a copy, then you delete the copy. Contractual terms satisfied.

    • @monogram@feddit.nl
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      129 days ago

      The raw data might be purged but no one talks about the ML modal that google trained with that data.

    • @seralth@lemmy.world
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      19 days ago

      To be fair nothing was stolen, the lawyers even admitted as much.

      This is a user error problem caused by the moron in a hurry problem.

      The warning on incognito mode both before and after the change was very explicit that it was local only. It was intended for people sharing a computer, not for privacy to anything you searched, external websites, etc

      Below the warning even had examples over exactly what was and was not saved with it explicitly saying that external websites would be able to track and save your data including Google.

      The change was to add that warning list to the initial warning itself because Google had assumed people would read the entire page. They did not.

      Which means that those morons in a hurry who only skimmed misunderstood what incognito mode was for. Did not read the use case, the warning, the TOs, the manual, or any other information provided both explicitly or implicitly.

      Hell even parted the argument of the lawyers was that this is a user issue and that Google had a responsibility to prevent people who were ignorant or in a hurry from misunderstanding. And while they made a good faith effort, it could have been better. Google being the large company is taking the fall for this more than anything but it is at the end of the day a user issue.

  • @Landless2029@lemmy.world
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    Incognito was literally only good for opening a second session without you logged in. It did zero for privacy. Even their disclaimer said so.

  • @Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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    Incognito/Private Browsing came about when people were sharing computers more often. It doesn’t save history and cookies and whatnot on your device. It’s to prevent the next user from getting in to your bank account.

    Google and whoever else will still know your IP and can use that to cross-reference whatever other data they have on you.

  • @Lucky_777@lemmy.world
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    Incognito mode was always just to hide your local browser history. Think Google would NOT track you?

    Do you have Google maps? They know where you are at all times.

    • Camelbeard
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      User visits Google (logged in)

      User visits Google, without cookies, but from the same IP, same user agent, same resolution, same OS, same enabled plugins, same browser version number, same fingerprint (based on al the previous information).

      Google, who could this possibly be???

  • @PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.

    • ssɐqɯnᗡ
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      Wouldn’t that be amazing! I have single frames of good videos stuck in my head that I can never find again.

  • MynameisAllen
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    Um was this surprising to anyone? I think we all assumed that this was the case no???

    • @cRazi_man@europe.pub
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      Doesn’t it specifically say on a new incognito tab that this doesn’t protect against sites or service providers from gathering information…and only stops you from storing local information (history, cookies, etc)? Do people actually think that incognito is adding privacy protection?

      • Kairos
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        That was actually a result of this issue, where Google placed misleading statements in incognito and then proceeded to actively go around them.

        • @seralth@lemmy.world
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          It actually had bullet points below the initial warning that said websites could track you.

          The big warning on top was fine before. It could have been worded better and the update made its wording better. But below that warning it’s always had bullet points over examples of what it would and would not save in website tracking as well as browser data from searches could be saved. Sure, they didn’t explicitly say Google would save your data, but Google being a web browser falls under that bullet point and Google being a website falls under that bullet point. A website falls under that bullet point.

          This is people not being able to understand what words mean.

      • @tomenzgg@midwest.social
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        Maybe I read it wrong but (to me) the meme makes it sound like Google’s taking the local data (that’s supposed to be forgotten, once you close the browser window) and sending it over to Google for them to, I dunno, run analysis on.

        If they’re saying that Google sites (like YouTube, Google search, etc.) were collecting data when I visit them (as, unfortunately, sites do), then I’d say, “Well, duh;” but this makes it seem like they were exporting your local data off to their cloud which, like, they could obviously, technically do but wouldn’t very much be in the spirit of how Incognito mode was portrayed.

  • @Elgenzay@lemmy.ml
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    You’ve gone Incognito. Others who use this device won’t see your activity, so you can browse more privately. This won’t change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google. Downloads, bookmarks and reading list items will be saved.

    - Google Chrome

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          Yeah, one would have hoped that’d be the case - but apparently not.

          I just remembered reading this a while back (start of last year, it seems?), and it honestly felt like a tacit admission of wrong-doing - so they’re likely going to be facing an uphill battle, or at least are expecting one.

        • @seralth@lemmy.world
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          Even before that change it’s explicit about it… The change literally did not change any part of the text that tells you who can and are going to track you. They basically went from “this isn’t real privacy” to screaming at your face cause apparently people can’t read and are idiots.

          This is a case of users misusing a tool and not reading. At best you can argue that google should have assumed it’s users were stupid beyond measure from the start and had a tos so verbose that only someone missing a brain could misunderstand the point of the tool.

      • @blujan@sopuli.xyz
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        Man, even then it was clear what it was doing, are they supposed to list every single website you visit that might track you?

  • @Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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    The Google Incognito tab in any browser clarifies that while it prevents your browsing history from being saved on your device, it does not make your browsing completely private.

    Websites you visit, your employer (if on a work network), and your internet service provider (ISP) can still track your online activity.

    Hell it even has a link that leads directly to the privacy policy

    https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9845881?hl=en-GB

    The only thing that shocks me is that no one ever reads it

  • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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    Incognito was never about hiding your data from Google, it was always about preventing random websites from getting your data

    • @m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip
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      It doesn’t even do that. All it does is prevent persistent data from being stored from the browsing session (so, no disk cache or browsing history).

    • @seralth@lemmy.world
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      From day one it is explicitly said it doesn’t do that. It’s literally always been on the main blank tab page right below the warning over what it does.

      How they even had to update the wording because of all of this because people didn’t bother to read three bullet points