• @innermachine@lemmy.world
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    163 days ago

    It’s funny how everybody these days thinks they have ADHD because the phones their glued to trained them to have no attention span. Definatley not good for youngsters to have constant access to them! Not good for adults either!!!

    • Victor
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      23 days ago

      I mean they could’ve asked me, I would’ve said the same result. No need to perform a study or nothing. And I would’ve only charged half, I bet.

      • DominusOfMegadeus
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        43 days ago

        “Well, I was only gonna charge half as much, but then I realized I could charge the full amount and make double the money.”

  • Dr. Moose
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    43 days ago

    But is focus the end goal? Im of belief that smartphones and computers in general in inseparable part of our contemporary existence and instead of prohibition some alternative methods would be much more effective like special software restrictions etc.

    • @Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works
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      103 days ago

      Focus is the end goal in the classroom, otherwise why bother going? They are not prohibited from using smartphones in their life, only in class.

      Honestly what ‘software restrictions’? You were a kid, I was too, most of us were. What’s the first thing you do when you’re told you can’t do something? You find a way around it.

      what did you learn in school today little Timmy?

      i learned to drop tables tunnel into a VPN so I could watch Reels in class

      • Dr. Moose
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        23 days ago

        The article clearly says this is ban is beyond just classes.

        There’s much more to schools than just focus in classes.

        • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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          43 days ago

          There’s much more to schools than just focus in classes.

          Like in person socialization and relationship building?

          • Dr. Moose
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            23 days ago

            And a computer makes that harder or easier? I’m not convinced.

              • Dr. Moose
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                22 days ago

                Not convinced by this argument and surely there would still better way to address this.

                • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                  12 days ago

                  I don’t care what you think because you aren’t here in good faith. I won’t engage with you further.

        • @Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works
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          33 days ago

          The article does not say that.

          This article states That

          National guidelines, introduced in January 2024, recommend banning smartphones from classrooms

          There is a quote that seems to reference students not having their phones between classes, though it is not said whether they are prohibited or do not have access to them.

          in the breaks between the lessons, students would be on their phones and now they’re forced to talk …

    • FiveMacs
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      83 days ago

      Yeah because we all know how restricting people’s access works…it doesn’t

      Remove the distraction, you’re there to learn.

      • Dr. Moose
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        But we know for a fact that prohibition is a weak tool that almost never works. So whats your point?

        Your argument premise is flawed as phone is beyond “just a distraction”. Why not remove all other students and chairs and windows - they’re all distractions!

        I’m not sure why I even bother commenting here on lemmy when people are so small minded and can’t contribute to discussions without taking the most reductionist view. We’re not deciding policy here but just discussion what should be an interesting and engaging topic.

        • kadup
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          73 days ago

          You can’t compare prohibition in a broad context to restrictive usage.

          You can’t drive a vehicle in the sidewalk either, doesn’t mean you’re forbidden to have a car.

          Have your phone - download TikTok, Canva, Wikipedia, WhatsApp, go nuts… Outside of a classroom.

    • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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      33 days ago

      Excessive device use has been demonstrated to be highly detrimental to adults. The recommendation is no more than one hour a day.

      In a world where no one listens to that advice and actively acts against it, children can only benefit from 8 hours a day where they are not allowed access and must instead be social humans for a while.

      • Dr. Moose
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        23 days ago

        Source because thats reeks of Bible belt house mom science lmao

        Its just a computer. If you don’t have temperance to handle it then that can be taught to 90% of people.

          • Dr. Moose
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            Did you at least read the abstract lmao

            Emerging scientific evidence indicates that frequent digital technology use has a significant impact—both negative and positive—on brain function and behavior. Potential harmful effects of extensive screen time and technology use include heightened attention-deficit symptoms, impaired emotional and social intelligence, technology addiction, social isolation, impaired brain development, and disrupted sleep. However, various apps, videogames, and other online tools may benefit brain health. Functional imaging scans show that internet-naive older adults who learn to search online show significant increases in brain neural activity during simulated internet searches. Certain computer programs and videogames may improve memory, multitasking skills, fluid intelligence, and other cognitive abilities. Some apps and digital tools offer mental health interventions providing self-management, monitoring, skills training, and other interventions that may improve mood and behavior. Additional research on the positive and negative brain health effects of technology is needed to elucidate mecha

            • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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              12 days ago

              Conclusions

              Research on the brain-health consequences of digital technology is beginning to elucidate how these novel devices and programs can both help and harm brain function. Their frequent use heightens ADHD symptoms, interferes with emotional and social intelligence, can lead to addictive behaviors, increases social isolation, and interferes with brain development and sleep. However, specific programs, videogames, and other online tools may provide mental exercises that activate neural circuitry, improve cognitive functioning, reduce anxiety, increase restful sleep, and offer other brain-health benefits. Future research needs to elucidate underlying mechanisms and causal relationships between technology use and brain health, with a focus on both the positive and negative impact of digital technology use.

              You should have actually tried reading it.

              • Dr. Moose
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                12 days ago

                my point was exactly that it’s not a black and white issue while you argue that it is.