Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

    • @Amoeba_Girl
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      Okay what the fuck, this is completely deranged. How can anyone’s intuitions about reading be this wrong? Is he secretly illiterate, did he dictate the article?

    • @fullsquare
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      damn, a clanker pretending to be a human. humans read entire words at once, and this includes numbers, length and first digit already give some indication of magnitude

      • @bigfondue@lemmy.world
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        Yes, and largest place value is literally called the most significant digit. It makes perfect sense that it comes first.

    • @Soyweiser
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      26 hours ago

      Starting this fight and not ‘stop counting at zero you damn computer nerds!’ is a choice. DIJKSTRAAAAAAAA shakes fist

      (There is more to it in a way, as he is trying to be a Dijkstra, and changing an ingrained system which would confuse everybody and cause so many problems down the line. See all the off by one errors made by programmers. Damn DIJKSTRAAAAAA!).

    • @flaviat
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      37 hours ago

      Computers use both big endian and little endian and it doesn’t seem to matter much. Yet humans should switch their entire number system?

      • @gerikson
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        47 hours ago

        The argument would be stronger (not strong, but stronger) if he could point to an existing numbering system that is little-endian and somehow show it’s better

  • @bitofhope
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    1318 hours ago

    Sometimes while browsing a website I catch a glimpse of the cute jackal girl and it makes me smile. Anubis isn’t a perfect thing by any means, but it’s what the web deserves for its sins.

    Even some pretty big name sites seem to use it as-is, down to the mascot. You’d think the software is pretty simple to customize into something more corporate and soulless, but I’m happy to see the animal eared cartoon girl on otherwise quite sterile sites.

      • @bitofhope
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        48 hours ago

        Huh, interesting approach. So the idea is that you either use the free version and (preferably) retain the anime girl mascot to promote Anubis itself, or you pay for a commercial license to remove animu in a way that is officially supported.

        • @BlueMonday1984OP
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          48 hours ago

          Basically. Its to explicitly prevent Xe from becoming the load-bearing peg for a massive portion of the Internet, thus ensuring this project doesn’t send her health down the shitter.

          You want my prediction, I suspect future FOSS projects may decide to adopt mascots of their own, to avoid the “load-bearing maintainer” issue in a similar manner.

          • @bitofhope
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            48 hours ago

            Seems a bit early to say whether others are going to do that. This experiment hasn’t had much time to prove itself and so far I haven’t recognized anyone using a corporate branded BotStopper instance, only the jackal girl version.

            Responsibility manahement through branding is an interrsting idea and I wouldn’t mind seeing it working, but a prediction like that seems like jumping to conclusions prematurely. Then again, I guess that’s kinda what “prediction” means in general.

    • @froztbyte
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      913 hours ago

      certainly better than seeing the damned cloudflare Click Here To Human box, although I suspect a number of these deployments still don’t sponsor Xe or the project development :/

  • @scruiser
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    819 hours ago

    Should we give up on all altruist causes because the AGI God is nearly here? the answer may surprise you!

    tldr; actually you shouldn’t give because the AGI God might not be quite omnipotent and thus would still benefit from your help and maybe there will be multiple Gods, some used for Good and some for Evil so your efforts are still needed. Shrimp are getting their eyeballs cut off right now!

    • @o7___o7
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      517 hours ago

      Stomatopodcasting

  • @corbin
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    131 day ago

    Alex O’Connor platformed Sabine on his philosophy podcast. I’m irritated that he is turning into Lex Friedman simply by being completely uncritical. Well, no, wait, he was critical of Bell’s theorem, and even Sabine had to tell him that Bell’s work is mathematically proven. This is what a philosophy degree does to your epistemology, I guess.

    My main sneer here is just some links. See, Mary’s Room is answered by neuroscience; Mary does experience something new when color vision is restored. In particular, check out the testimonials from this 2021 Oregon experiment that restored color vision to some folks born without it. Focusing on physics, I’d like to introduce you all to Richard Behiel, particularly his explanations of electromagnetism and the Anderson-Higgs mechanism; there are deeper explanations for electricity and magnets, my dude. Also, if you haven’t yet, go read Alex’s Wikipedia article, linked at the top of the sneer.

    • @TinyTimmyTokyo
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      1222 hours ago

      In the case of O’Connor and people like him, I think it’s about much more than his philosophy background. He’s a YouTube creator who creates content on a regular schedule and makes a living off it. Once you start doing that, you’re exposed to all the horrible incentives of the YouTube engagement algorithm, which inevitably leads you to start seeking out other controversial YouTubers to platform and become friendly with. It’s an “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine” situation dialed up to 11.

      The same thing has happened to Sabine herself. She’s been captured by the algorithm, which has naturally shifted her audience to the right, and now she’s been fully captured by that new audience.

      I fully expect Alex O’Connor to remain on this treadmill. <remind me in 12months>

    • Alex
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      What getting c*cked by Mikhaila Peterson does to a mfer.

  • @flaviat
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    111 day ago

    It’s hard to come up with analogies for AI because it’s so goddamn stupid. It’s like if asbestos was flammable.

    • @fullsquare
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      111 day ago

      it’s like leaded gasoline for internet - it makes people stupid and aggressive, kids are hit the worst by it, fallout will be felt for decades, cleanup might be hard to impossible, and ultimately it’s a product of corporate greed. except even leaded gasoline solved some problem

      it’s also like gambling as in hook model. it’s like cocaine in that it has been marketed to managerial class as a status symbol of sorts

    • @HedyL
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      81 day ago

      Or like the radium craze of the early 20th century (even if radium may have a lot more legitimate use cases than current-day LLM).

      • @mountainriver
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        621 hours ago

        One of the products was removal of unwanted hair. You radiated and the hair just fell off! How practical!

        To be fair to the radium people, I don’t think the correlation between radiation and cancer was established until the aftermath of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Still one could see hair falling of as a warning sign of sorts.

    • @BlueMonday1984OP
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      81 day ago

      Someone I know called AI “a non-invasive procedure to lobotomise people” after I mentioned this Pivot to AI, and its stuck with me ever since

  • @scruiser
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    142 days ago

    So this blog post was framed positively towards LLM’s and is too generous in accepting many of the claims around them, but even so, the end conclusions are pretty harsh on practical LLM agents: https://utkarshkanwat.com/writing/betting-against-agents/

    Basically, the author has tried extensively, in multiple projects, to make LLM agents work in various useful ways, but in practice:

    The dirty secret of every production agent system is that the AI is doing maybe 30% of the work. The other 70% is tool engineering: designing feedback interfaces, managing context efficiently, handling partial failures, and building recovery mechanisms that the AI can actually understand and use.

    The author strips down and simplifies and sanitizes everything going into the LLMs and then implements both automated checks and human confirmation on everything they put out. At that point it makes you question what value you are even getting out of the LLM. (The real answer, which the author only indirectly acknowledges, is attracting idiotic VC funding and upper management approval).

    Even as critcal as they are, the author doesn’t acknowledge a lot of the bigger problems. The API cost is a major expense and design constraint on the LLM agents they have made, but the author doesn’t acknowledge the prices are likely to rise dramatically once VC subsidization runs out.

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    132 days ago

    I tried to see if anyone sells chocolate coins modeled after historical gold coinage and the search engine wanted to be, uh, helpful:

    Highlighted portion by Google, not me. Funny how almost everything in the answer is mostly correct, though it’s bizarre to explain this to someone searching with these keywords as if I don’t already know what florins and chocolate coins are if I’m looking for chocolate florins specifically. The only part blatantly wrong is the highlighted lede!

  • @Soyweiser
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    112 days ago

    “An AI? But using that you could find a cure for cancer!”

    “But I dont want to make a cure for cancer, i want to generate powerpoint presentations. Look it just made this quarterly_report_june_july_jan.wpd file for me.”

    • @Soyweiser
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      72 days ago

      (yes im using the sneerthread to write down bad jokes).

      • @Seminar2250
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        62 days ago

        i thought it was pretty funny <3

        • @Soyweiser
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          It was amusing to see wikipedia keeps a list of fileformats and wordperfect was among them. Which seemed the correct factor of wrong, obscure, but not obscure enough that nobody would notice.

  • @froztbyte
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    82 days ago

    eyeballing the orange site top-frontpage, and:

    shit should come with a strain warning

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      AI is important. But we don’t yet fully know why.

      k

    • @FRACTRANS
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      62 days ago

      Cal Newport jumpscare (some productivity “influencer” who anxious teen me read)

  • @blakestaceyA
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    123 days ago

    I found this because Greg Egan shared it elsewhere on fedi:

    I am now being required by my day job to use an AI assistant to write code. I have also been informed that my usage of AI assistants will be monitored and decisions about my career will be based on those metrics.

    It gets worse from there.