This happened to me irl. They ask me to mess a bit with tarot cards and as they’re leaving they tell me “You’d go think about stuff before go you out dating. All men are predators”. When I ask them that sounds incredibly prejudiced they just respond with “It’s in the studies”. I was perfectly fine when feminism meant egalitarianism but thats is oughtright stupid vitriol that’s gonna help noone.
In the US, of 100 rapes against girls and women reported to the police, 18 will be prosecuted.
Jeffery Epstein and his cohort abused hundreds of girls, and all anybody cares about is what powerful man might be embarrassed. Has anyone proposed or suggested anything to protect girls from rich perverts?
From the founding till 1951, raping your wife was legal in all 48 states. And that protection extended in several states beyond the federal change. Some states even made common-law husbands immune.
The Christian Bible considers rape to be a property crime. in conservative circles, girls as young as 12 are regularly married off to their rapist.
The leading cause of death for pregnant people in the US is homicide.
I think young women considering men to be a threat is pretty rational.
It’s the bit about claiming all men are a threat. That’s just as wrong as claiming all black people are criminals because they have the largest proportion of incarcerations (and yes I know that’s got a lot more to do with systemic racism than anything else, but that’s kind of the point). Blanket statements based on gender, ethnicity, or even age are wrong even when it’s a minority making a blanket statement about the majority.
When you blindly attack everyone all that does is discourage anyone from wanting to help you, even those that agree with many of your points. Making far reaching easily disprovable blanket statements is not how you go about collecting allies to try to fix societies problems.
If you feel attacked by « all men is a rapist » you’ll need to reconsider what you are
And if you think. “All men are rapists” is a sane and reasonable statement you’re definitely a misandrist and just as wrong as the misogynists.
Well I feel attacked. Because I am a man and I have never raped anyone. Yet, by such broad statements, I, and many other man are immediately put in the rapist category.
How would you like statements like all woman are thieves?
Doesn’t feel right to put a lot of people in one category based on gender right? It is just as much bullshit.
Yes, most rape is from a man done to a woman. That does not mean that every man will rape woman. It’s just not true, and you immediately lose any chance of having a normal conversation with a man if you start by accusing them of a crime. That there is no proof of, and did not happen in most cases.
Try opening up a conversation with any stranger on the street by accusing them of being a murderer. How long will that laat and how much are you going to achieve by that? It’s just stupid.
If you want to change the world you have to talk to other people, build bridges and understand each other. Not wildy accuse each other of criminal behaviour just based on gender.
And that, is all the energy I am spending today on this nonsense.
People like you are why dating makes me nervous. I end up scrutinizing actions that haven’t happened and make myself feel guilty for things I can’t control.
Get mad at the system of patriarchy that created this situation
And we can only do that with a coalition of people to support that cause. Blaming and segmenting people for existing does nothing but weaken the base of support.
And women are nervous in dating because if they trust the wrong person, they might get raped and murdered. Unfortunately, in the reality we live in, dating can’t really be carefree. With more systemic issues addressed, perhaps it can be.
Go ahead and read again what I wrote. I haven’t killed anyone, don’t plan to, don’t want to, and can’t control anyone who does.
Sure, but they don’t know, people lie. If we put in a balance your feeling being hurt vs them being murdered and/or raped, I’d say that unfortunately it’s better for now for you to feel bad.
All men should aspire to be like you, then. We’d have a much safer world that way.
The Christian Bible considers rape to be a property crime.
Got any specific verses to cite for this? It’s brought up often enough, but I’ve rarely if ever seen the source. I have a strong feeling that’s from the old testament, of which many Christians ignore the “laws” due to the events of the new testament.
Promise I’m not trying to sealion here. It’s just that these are big claims that I’ve not seen reflected first hand in my 30 plus years in and out of Christianity.
I’m also going to softly remind everyone that the old testament writings are also foundational to Jewish faith and Islamic faith, which is consistently left out of most of these discussions of the ills of religion.
Edit: So sealioning and whataboutism, I’m on a roll!
They’re likely basing it on a verse (that I don’t have handy at the moment) but it says something to the effect that if a mans wife is raped by someone he has to pay a certain amount of silver to the husband in compensation. I couldn’t tell you if it was old testament or not (probably though, sounds very old testament). I think the way it’s phrased was something like “if a man lays with another man’s woman, he must pay him X whatever”.
Here are the verses I could find with some quick searching: Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.” Exodus 22:16-17 “16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. 17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.” Both of these require the rapist/seducer to marry the woman and to pay the standard dowry amount to the woman’s father. The exodus verse gives the father the option to reject the marriage, which is a good addition! (IMO since the Deuteronomy version was written later, the rejection clause might have been left out in later versions of the law.) Both of these verses are from the Old Testament, which Christians mostly use for cultural context, as Jesus fulfilled the Law of Moses during his ministry. Most Christians take laws that only appear in the Old Testament as historical, but no longer consider them doctrine. Also, the culture of Old Testament believers was significantly different and so applying these laws to todays Christians doesn’t account for then assive cultural differences. (For example, Exodus 22:18, right after the passage above says “18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” Which has been used out of its cultural context to justify actual witch hunts!) In conclusion, both versions of this historical law are considered superceded by most modern Christians.
Not to mention the verse will be in the old testament, i.e. the non-Christian part.
So are the ten commandments. I’m ok with cherry picking. Take what reflects the best, discard the worst.
The thing is, Jesus quoted the ten commandments, and taught that they are still in effect, the same can’t be said for most of the rest of the Old Testament though.
That’s ridiculous. I’ve never had optical camouflage, advanced weaponry, and I’ve never hunted a human.
Yet. We all yearn for them, remember!
maybe you just proved her point
Eh, some people are too stupid to successfully think in non-extreme, non-categorically binary terms, at least not without leading them through it. It’s easy to ‘make sense’ (lol) of the world that way, just like it’s easier to read the horoscope and KNOW there’s just 12 different kinds of people (maybe more if you count the ‘ascendant’ sign or whatever) than it is to understand human complexity and the mixture of culture (time and place), life experiences (various ways of childhood trauma come here), attachment styles, etc. that makes a person.
Bad experience, but not a common one I think. Inhale, exhale, forget about it.
Oh, yeah definitely. They asked me to sit with them for a bit and play around with tarot cards so I obliged them. We had a silly experience and then they drop this bombshell on me as they are leaving.
Someone tried that with me, down to the “Well, not all men, but all predators are men…”
So I flipped it… Mary Kay Letourneau was a man?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau
“Oh, well, THAT’S different…”
Is it though? If these were male teachers, you’d be using that as “proof” all men are predators…
https://www.live5news.com/2025/05/13/former-teacher-year-sentenced-sexually-assaulting-students/
Am I a joke to you?
Yeah, had an English teacher here in KVUC who had a very fun personality. Lo and behold six months later she was expelled from the school for sexualky harassing several guys.
Turns out she tried with me as well, but my personality is such a plank that I shrugged her off several times without even realising.
Ah, the old classic of deliberately misrepresenting feminist assertions in the most extreme words possible, to stoke up manufactured indignation towards women rights, and then people acting incredibly dense and disingenuous when it is cleared up for them… I see 2014 is back.
The deal is that this happened to me irl. They ask me to mess a bit with tarot cards and as they’re leaving they tell me “You’d go think about stuff before go you out dating. All men are predators”. When I ask them that sounds incredibly prejudiced they just respond with “It’s in the studies”. I was perfectly fine when feminism meant egalitarianism but thats is oughtright stupid vitriol that’s gonna help noone.
You may want to include this context in your original post, as without it, it comes across like you are making a blanket statement about the blanket statement.
What?
Straight up I got told “All men are predators” in my face. When I told them that sounded very prejudiced they said “It’s in the studies, all men are predators. You’d isolate yourself and think before you actually go out and try dating”
It’s enough men to constantly have your guard up around them. That by no means all and everyone who says that is grossly misrepresenting men, but it’s enough men to feel unsafe.
Maybe ask for the studies? I mean if that’s phrased as a fact… Why not read up on it? Maybe they’re mistaken, or you are.
Little dick energy right here.
“Not infuriating, not enraging. Mildly Infuriating. All posts should reflect that.”
Read the sign. 🙃
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Ah yes the anti anti sexist in the wild. Look how it twists the words and jumps to bizarre conclusions.
Set yourself free and just admit you have a problem with women instead of just some women you want to pretend to disagree with.
