radical for-profit “investment” in healthcare research, production, and administration makes outcomes worse, not better

not to be a raging commie but this upsets me

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      Contrary to popular myth, most partners claim to prefer small or average-sized GDPs. A GDP that’s too large can actually be painful or downright prohibitive.

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      You mean the ~$200/hr contract cleaners at the nonprofit “rehab center” our 80something year old parents go to is going to profit? no way!

      Now multiply that single contract worker doing cleaning to all aspects of building maintenance, medical devices… and unbelievably these are all for-profit entities acting as vendors are owned by the same entity that owns the nonprofit healthcare facility.

      I’m not making this up, sadly.

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    Life in the US may be intolerably expensive and exploitative, but look on the bright side - at least it’s short.

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    Don’t worry guys, we’re folding to MAGA pressure in the EU and our conservative parties are working hard to privatize our healthcare so it can be just as shitty as yours.

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    twice as much money to live several years shorter and work that much closer to retirement, most likely

    are you winning, america?

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    The main problem is comparing America to other wealthy liberal democracies. We’re closer to lower income countries with far more authoritarian governments at this point, and we’ll only get closer with time. Comparisons to Russia and China would also be quite apt, as they’re in similar imperial positions.

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          I mean, you’re kind of right? It is much worse for black women though. The rate’s of infant and maternal mortality are shockingly higher for them, let alone other health outcomes. As well you’ve got the case of Adriana Smith, which yes, could absolutely happen to a white woman. However, it’s not really surprising the case they used to normalise the concept was a black woman.

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            the whole culture of medicine is infected with conservative quacks whose first line of treatment for non-white-men is trying to convince patients they don’t need treatment

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      Cuban has a higher life expectancy, and would be off the left side for cost. Turns out if you use your authoritarianism to force all the people who want to be doctors to go to college and become doctors, you get shittons of healthcare.

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      1 US year is 0.95 EU years just like how 1 woman dollar is 85 man cents

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    In my defense I’m a little stoned, but I couldn’t find the US flag for a moment it’s such an outlier.

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      ngl i struggled to find japan at first glance it blends in and lools like a red data point 🤪 🙈

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        ngl I only took a guess it was Japan, I saw this image during bedtime mode on Android where I keep the screen on grayscale, but I only know one country flag with a dot and two colors. 😅

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      Happy to see Japan towards the left and up.

      Having spent a considerable amount of time there, it’s a multitude of things that are swaying the life expectancy. Yes healthcare there is significantly cheaper, but perhaps more importantly their diet is phenomenal (higher amounts of non-processed foods and *vegetables* [the town I lived in grew simple but quite delicious veggies]).

      😩 日本に戻りたいなぁ

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        fucking love vegetables bro that’s what they don’t tell you about america is they brainwash us from literally age zero to believe vegetables aren’t the tastiest yummiest shit

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    I think that US figure is way too skewed for this chart

    The US probably spends less that most first world countries on providing actual health care services to its citizens … the rest of the money and funds that are calculated into charts like this should be identified as financing a private for-profit medical / health industry.

    The US doesn’t have health care … they have a private medical industry

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      No, the US really does spend this much per person on average. Expenses intended for medicine that end up in finance pockets count. You don’t get a handicap in this game merely because your system is corrupt. There is already plenty that isn’t being counted here, like how the costs of poor health externalize onto and make more expensive everything else in our society. If anything, the dot for the US in this chart isn’t far afield enough.

      By the way, this is also how the US spends more per person on education than any other country despite having some of the worst education outcomes. We just shovel money into tech and finance and get nothing back from it.

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      the rest of the money and funds that are calculated into charts like this should be identified as financing a private for-profit medical / health industry.

      Lol, change the rules to make the numbers look better, eh?

      Per capita spending should include the money wasted going to for profit health care, because that’s money wasted that should have gone to health care, and is a contributor to that high number. Don’t lie to yourself to make the metrics look better, solve the actual problem.

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        I don’t think that was the intent, more how much health care actually costs vs. how much just goes to pad people’s wallets.

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      High healthcare costs also add to childhood mortality as parents are less likely to bring their kids in for preventative care