Its not funny. Why does this shit keep popping up on linuxmemes. Its not true (anymore). Just use Beginner Friendly Distros and you will never face any of this shit… So stop being afraid of a fucking terminal you dork.
Edit: if you complain about your software or hardware not working shutdown your devices and go take a walk in nature and reflect about the fact that you are too stupid to write your own working code for software or build your own chips from a pile of sand or even realize why you even have to use computers as a human being in this short blib of a lifetime in this incomprehensible thing we call universe and instead have to rely upon contributed work of others. But I guess you are unable since your feelings are getting manipulated by a fucking comment on a lemmy community post which makes you angry and nOw I NeEd To ClAriFy StUfF AbOuT LiNux aNd hOw ShIt It ActUaLly StiLl is aNd HaVe To TeLL EvErYoNe oN ThE InTerNeT viA a LemMY CoMmEnT ;((((. Lol you dorks.
Edit2: Yes Linux works like shit at times. Its a frustrating mess sometimes. BuT AtLeAsT mY wOrD DoCuMenTs aRe NoT UpLoAdEd to ThE ClOuD.
Because it’s unfortunately still true. I have a video-card that I can’t upgrade because it nvidia drivers keep breaking my display. I’ve had to swap distros because some don’t work well with my audio-card, or my wifi-card. I was able to get them working eventually, but pretending that it wasn’t a pain in the ass would be a lie.
This attitude of “everything works fine, and if it doesn’t that means you are doing it wrong” is why people don’t like trying Linux. We have to be realistic about the experience. It’s massively better than it used to be, but pretending its flawless is just dishonest.
i sometimes struggled with alsa and pulseaudio, especially in more niche or diy distros, and at the time it was frustrating as hell, but looking back it’s a nostalgic memory.
I ran into an issue last night with HDMI failing to be assigned as the audio output. a reboot fixed it but idk what the problem really is it how to prevent it.
been full time on Debian 15 years, and full time on Linux 21 years.
I’ve also had a lot of success on most hardware, but the worst device I ever touched was a 2016 Macbook (one of the last with normal ports) and that thing was a total mess.
Arch: Video, no sound.
Debian: Sound, no video.
Ubuntu: Everything works, reboot, nothing works.
Probably heavily related to hardware, but still, very inconsistent. I was never able to find the actual issue after weeks.
The final somewhat working configuration was Debian+Liquorix for the video firmware.
Well, that may be the case, but you made the claim that using a beginner-friendly distro solves all problems and I gave an anecdotal example of that not being the case. Macbooks have a substantial markt share, like it or not, and are subject to planned hardware obsolescense, so people will try to install Linux at some point.
Besides of all, this was not purely a hardware issue. Else, no configuration would have worked out. There were differences in the default configs of the distributions that caused this erratic behavior and it was not just a pulseaudio/pipewire thing.
My wifi keeps freaking out, my 2.5G nic simply doesn’t work, my Bluetooth acts up constantly, the razor kernel module made my whole setup unstable and I just wanted to change the stupid RGB lights, HDMI support is unpredictable, Nvidia drivers are a shitshow.
I still don’t miss Windows, but Windows 11 is stable on the same hardware.
Edit: if you complain about your software or hardware not working shutdown your devices and go take a walk in nature and reflect about the fact that you are too stupid to write your own working code for software or build your own chips from a pile of sand
You lasted exactly one paragraph before contradicting yourself.
Please, shut down your device and just take a walk dude
Beginner distros are even worse, once you’re past the absolute beginner phase and start to notice what I call “the fuck you features” you start to hate linux as much as windows, for example, sound always starts with a fade in so notification sounds get muted, that’s because there’s an energy savings option active by default, you’ll find dozens of forum posts telling you how to fix it except, fuck you, none of them work anymore because that configuration file is not there anymore and you must create it and figure out what to write in it.
Another example, celluloid opens subtitles by default, you don’t want that? Fuck you, create a configuration file somewhere and good luck finding out what to write in it. You end up installing vlc.
Things like these has been my experience with linux for the last 15 years.
Lol are you guys bots by apple, microsoft and co? You are so hateful regarding linux. I guess i just have to accept the dead internet theory. Just bots manipulating the masses so big tech companys can still sell their monopolic shit cuz LiNuX StilL sO bAd :(((((
Are you one of those fanboys incapable to see anything wrong in the things they like?
I’ve been using Linux as a daily driver for the last twenty years. Linux has plenty of issues that no one bothers to fix because there’s been some workaround since day one. The philosophy seems to be still they are nerds, they’ll figure it out.
I had to fuck around with both pipewire and gameconf just to get my HDMI audio “working”. I still haven’t figured out why HDR and vrr refuse to work. PoE2 will launch from the desktop but no no no, I use deck mode and crash, no monitor to display to. Turn off and on my display, of it’s fucking gone. Go unplug and put it back in EVERY TIME I WALK AWAY FROM MY COMPUTER FOR A MINUTE. My fucking Xbox and PS5 controllers get seconds off latency and even if I’m plugged in the Xbox controller STILL has issues maintaining a stable connection.
3 weeks into my bi yearly being tricked into thinking THIS is the year Linux DE becomes less a pain in the ass over windows DE and I’m ready to go back.
I updated my laptop from Mint 21.3? to 22 and lost all sound. It’s when Mint switched from I think Pulse to Pipewire. The update left behind a random config file that stopped my sound device from being set up, and the only place I could find a fix was on an obscure forum post.
Hibernation and hybrid sleep are both supported by my laptop, and can be set up to work on Mint with a lot of configuration through the terminal. When I reboot though, they stop working again. The related options disappear from the power settings, but work from the terminal.
Pretending that Linux doesn’t have issues is an outright lie at this point
Unfortunately it is still true to some extent. i do have audio issue (crackling music, no sound, wrong audio preset on my headphones and i cant change it to the right one) all of them are fixed by restarting my PC
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Its not funny. Why does this shit keep popping up on linuxmemes. Its not true (anymore). Just use Beginner Friendly Distros and you will never face any of this shit… So stop being afraid of a fucking terminal you dork.
Edit: if you complain about your software or hardware not working shutdown your devices and go take a walk in nature and reflect about the fact that you are too stupid to write your own working code for software or build your own chips from a pile of sand or even realize why you even have to use computers as a human being in this short blib of a lifetime in this incomprehensible thing we call universe and instead have to rely upon contributed work of others. But I guess you are unable since your feelings are getting manipulated by a fucking comment on a lemmy community post which makes you angry and nOw I NeEd To ClAriFy StUfF AbOuT LiNux aNd hOw ShIt It ActUaLly StiLl is aNd HaVe To TeLL EvErYoNe oN ThE InTerNeT viA a LemMY CoMmEnT ;((((. Lol you dorks.
Edit2: Yes Linux works like shit at times. Its a frustrating mess sometimes. BuT AtLeAsT mY wOrD DoCuMenTs aRe NoT UpLoAdEd to ThE ClOuD.
Edit3: /s
Edit4:
/sI will make sure to post truly funny and intellectual content next time like “windows bad haha”
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Because it’s unfortunately still true. I have a video-card that I can’t upgrade because it nvidia drivers keep breaking my display. I’ve had to swap distros because some don’t work well with my audio-card, or my wifi-card. I was able to get them working eventually, but pretending that it wasn’t a pain in the ass would be a lie.
This attitude of “everything works fine, and if it doesn’t that means you are doing it wrong” is why people don’t like trying Linux. We have to be realistic about the experience. It’s massively better than it used to be, but pretending its flawless is just dishonest.
it’s a funny reference to more broken times
i sometimes struggled with alsa and pulseaudio, especially in more niche or diy distros, and at the time it was frustrating as hell, but looking back it’s a nostalgic memory.
🇺🇸🧑✈️: 😐… 😮 👉🙂
“I understood that reference.”
geez you sound insufferable, i wonder why so many people have negative opinions of the linux community…
also damn I don’t envy anyone who has to use a screen reader to read your first paragraph
I ran into an issue last night with HDMI failing to be assigned as the audio output. a reboot fixed it but idk what the problem really is it how to prevent it.
been full time on Debian 15 years, and full time on Linux 21 years.
That’s not true.
I’ve also had a lot of success on most hardware, but the worst device I ever touched was a 2016 Macbook (one of the last with normal ports) and that thing was a total mess.
Arch: Video, no sound. Debian: Sound, no video. Ubuntu: Everything works, reboot, nothing works.
Probably heavily related to hardware, but still, very inconsistent. I was never able to find the actual issue after weeks.
The final somewhat working configuration was Debian+Liquorix for the video firmware.
So no, it’s not guaranteed.
Nice catch! 👏 Using one of the most proprietary devices out there in the market as an example.
Well, that may be the case, but you made the claim that using a beginner-friendly distro solves all problems and I gave an anecdotal example of that not being the case. Macbooks have a substantial markt share, like it or not, and are subject to planned hardware obsolescense, so people will try to install Linux at some point.
Besides of all, this was not purely a hardware issue. Else, no configuration would have worked out. There were differences in the default configs of the distributions that caused this erratic behavior and it was not just a pulseaudio/pipewire thing.
If you’re using supported hardware, sure.
My wifi keeps freaking out, my 2.5G nic simply doesn’t work, my Bluetooth acts up constantly, the razor kernel module made my whole setup unstable and I just wanted to change the stupid RGB lights, HDMI support is unpredictable, Nvidia drivers are a shitshow.
I still don’t miss Windows, but Windows 11 is stable on the same hardware.
Good one. (I bluntly assumed you are joking cause otherwise 💅)
You lasted exactly one paragraph before contradicting yourself.
Please, shut down your device and just take a walk dude
Beginner distros are even worse, once you’re past the absolute beginner phase and start to notice what I call “the fuck you features” you start to hate linux as much as windows, for example, sound always starts with a fade in so notification sounds get muted, that’s because there’s an energy savings option active by default, you’ll find dozens of forum posts telling you how to fix it except, fuck you, none of them work anymore because that configuration file is not there anymore and you must create it and figure out what to write in it.
Another example, celluloid opens subtitles by default, you don’t want that? Fuck you, create a configuration file somewhere and good luck finding out what to write in it. You end up installing vlc.
Things like these has been my experience with linux for the last 15 years.
Lol are you guys bots by apple, microsoft and co? You are so hateful regarding linux. I guess i just have to accept the dead internet theory. Just bots manipulating the masses so big tech companys can still sell their monopolic shit cuz LiNuX StilL sO bAd :(((((
Are you one of those fanboys incapable to see anything wrong in the things they like?
I’ve been using Linux as a daily driver for the last twenty years. Linux has plenty of issues that no one bothers to fix because there’s been some workaround since day one. The philosophy seems to be still they are nerds, they’ll figure it out.
It will stay true as most computers are optimized to windoze-only. Just some of us are lucky because our computer wasn’t optimized to it.
Delusional as Trump stuff.
I had to fuck around with both pipewire and gameconf just to get my HDMI audio “working”. I still haven’t figured out why HDR and vrr refuse to work. PoE2 will launch from the desktop but no no no, I use deck mode and crash, no monitor to display to. Turn off and on my display, of it’s fucking gone. Go unplug and put it back in EVERY TIME I WALK AWAY FROM MY COMPUTER FOR A MINUTE. My fucking Xbox and PS5 controllers get seconds off latency and even if I’m plugged in the Xbox controller STILL has issues maintaining a stable connection.
3 weeks into my bi yearly being tricked into thinking THIS is the year Linux DE becomes less a pain in the ass over windows DE and I’m ready to go back.
Am extra 4 fps isn’t worth the effort.
I updated my laptop from Mint 21.3? to 22 and lost all sound. It’s when Mint switched from I think Pulse to Pipewire. The update left behind a random config file that stopped my sound device from being set up, and the only place I could find a fix was on an obscure forum post.
Hibernation and hybrid sleep are both supported by my laptop, and can be set up to work on Mint with a lot of configuration through the terminal. When I reboot though, they stop working again. The related options disappear from the power settings, but work from the terminal.
Pretending that Linux doesn’t have issues is an outright lie at this point
Fucking make a reinstall every once in a while. Migration hell is still true. So my comment is heavily biased cause migration is for noobs.
Do you want to call a few friends to help you move those goalposts?
It was true at the time the song was recorded though.
Unfortunately it is still true to some extent. i do have audio issue (crackling music, no sound, wrong audio preset on my headphones and i cant change it to the right one) all of them are fixed by restarting my PC