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Get this! Mike Johnson is now claiming — with no evidence whatsoever — that Donald Trump once served as an FBI informant to help dismantle sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking network. Johnson told reporters Trump “was an FBI informant in an effort to take Epstein down.”
I’M NOT JOKING!!! 🤣🤣
So you’re telling me Trump DID know about all the child-raping all along? And never said anything about it this whole time in the years after he had Epstein killed? The man who takes credit for EVERYTHING never once piped up to say “I turned Epstein in to the FBI”?
That’s not the slam dunk you seem to think it is, Johnson.
Yes, that is what is means. Trump was chummy with Epstein for many years, knew about the child trafficking and took part in it. Epstein “stole” a young girl from Trump’s resort and Trump got mad that Epstein took her out from under him. So, when Epstein wanted to buy a mansion, Trump used a Russian oligarch’s money to outbid him. And Epstein was so pissed that he threatened to expose Trump’s ties to Russia, and as a response, Trump turned Epstein in to the FBI. Alex Acosta was persuaded to give Epstein a sweetheart deal where he was not given Federal charges and got out on work release for up to 16 hours a day, 6 days a week, during his massively shortened sentence. And when Trump and Epstein later made up, Trump returned the favor to Acosta by giving him the Secretary of Labor position in his cabinet. So yeah, Trump “informing on Epstein to the FBI” definitely does not turn him into some kind of hero.
Excellent summary. What’s your opinion om the possibility epstein was a honey pot? When confronted about the deal during his confirmation hearings, Acosta claimed that he was told epstein “belonged to intelligence” and that the matter was “above his pay grade.” It could be a convenient and unverifiable excuse, but the fact that the FBI doubtless has mountains of evidence recovered from two raids on epstein and basically zero prosecution has arisen from it, I find it likely to be true.
In my opinion, we know enough from the victims of this sex ring to have pretty high confidence that Epstein was taking part in abusive sexual acts even in his own home, alone with the victims. So, if Epstein was acting as some kind of honey pot, it was because he was already doing these things and the government officials were either bribed or threatened, or under pressure from bribed and threatened officials not to go after a wealthy well-connected man like Epstein. And it is plausible they invented a honey pot cover so he could continue to get away with it. But even that I find unlikely, since if there was some kind of honey pot mechanism for this within the FBI, you would expect that some more significant portion of the powerful people we know are implicated would have had some kind of case levied against them. This sounds less like a well-intentioned plan to prosecute crime, and more like yet another glimpse over the crumbling facade of democracy. The more evidence we gather, the more we see how things really work. Rules are enforced often enough on middle-class people to give the impression that things are fair. And those people who believe in the fairness hold the fabric of society together and keep people from getting angry about the truth. That we are cattle and subject to the whims of a ruling class who take anything and anyone they want, whenever they want, and there are no mechanisms left in the system that have any ability to stop them anymore. There is no honey pot - not in any way that would have prevented the worst things from happening. If anything, it enabled further harm because of how broken the system is when it comes to what rich people are allowed to do. We can see the fence now. So, instead of spending too much energy arguing about whether we are fenced in or fenced out, we should start putting more of our energy into figuring out how to gain collective control of the gate.
The only way youre going to get a person to honey pot people with child sex is to get some one who is OK with or enjoys child sex. There isn’t some righteous person out there saying, “Im a moral and just person but sure Ill abuse children if it helps the government.”
It’s almost as if they’re trying to set up the claim that if he did fuck any kids, it was to protect them from the creeps that wanted to fuck them.
Sociopaths.
And how many times did he sample the product, just to be sure they were really underage?
Vote with lead.
Honestly, the fact that Trump is still alive is mind boggling.
We need some final destination plan for this mf.
Donald Trump was an FBI Informant for a man who did NO WRONG and also does NOT Appear in the Epstein Files despite being REALLY Close to Epstein to bring him down and had SEX with CHILDREN to bring down Epstein who Continued bringing children to CHILD RAPE ISLAND for DECADES after Trump started Investigating him!
That’s great Mike! I’m sure releasing the epstein files will show all that and exonerate your guy.
This can easily be discarded for just the fact that trump would have bragged about this a long time ago if true.
The problem is this is the exact cope that magats have been using since the flight logs were released, maybe even earlier.
“Trump good guy so if he was close with epstein it was OBVIOUSLY so he could take down the pedo ring!”
This will cause cognitive dissonance in approximately none of them.
He’s a great agent. It was real savy of trump to buy a teen pageant and then publicly brag about molesting pageant girls. Great undercover work, that’d convince anyone he’s a pedophile.
(/s)
This is a Qanon thing my MIL was spouting years ago. Trump was “secretly there to save the children” is not new.
I’m sure he only walked into the dressing rooms to watch the children change so that he could assess their risk levels of being trafficked, right?
These people and their cognitive dissonance.
“I participated in child sex trafficking but told the fbi. Im a hero!”
"I raped all those children to save them!*
“And I made good friends along the way, so I’ll be pardoning them”
“I participated in child sex trafficking but told the fbi. Im a hero!”
Nobel Peace Prize, here we come!
FWIW, apparently they are. I hadn’t peeked to see if we’d hit the high water mark for what /r/conservative will accept from Trump in a couple months. You’ll be happy to know that we have not.
This is apparently his actual vindication according to the true believers.
How many major drug dealers were caught and became “fbi informants” to take down the rest?
Isn’t this an admission of guilt?
Exactly what I came here to say. Many if not most informants are people who cut a deal in order to get out of their own charges because the evidence against them is so strong that they wouldn’t stand a chance in court.
Now it is possible that the FBI had him on financial crimes and used him to get to Epstein however that’s unlikely the case considering the courts have found Trump liable for one sexual assault (E. Jean Carroll) and he’s been accused of several more including the rape of a 13 year old: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000
Yeah, informants are criminals working off a debt to law enforcement to lower their sentence or avoid prosecution for their own crimes.
Are they sure this is the angle they want to take?
Are you implying that Trump, who is well known for his selflessness generosity and willingness to help others for a good cause, might have been acting out of selfish self interest?!??!
I’m just so happy they continue to bring up Jeffery Epstein on their own lmao
Keep it in the headlines, please
Even if he was an informant, arent informants people who were involved and just as guilty?
Don’t fall into it. It’s a classic case of
It didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
We’ve gone from “it didn’t happen” to “and if it is, that’s not my fault”. By saying “even if he was” you are inadvertently enabling the next step.
It happened. It was that bad. It is a big deal. He took part in the fault. He did mean it. They (the victims) didn’t deserve it.
Ik…I’m not saying it wasn’t bad or didn’t happen. And if he was an informant thte fact is he was def found guilty orignally and we know he did bad.
No… no no no. Stop.
The moment you start saying “if he was an informant” you are already enabling the next step. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s bad “even if he was”. He wasn’t. Don’t even play their game. That’s how they win.
The next step will be, “He was an undercover informant”. And you will say “even if he was…” and on it goes until it’s downplayed to where they want it.
Don’t you see, it’s already gone from “he wasn’t in the files at all” to “he was, but he was an informant”. And here we are, taking about “even if he was an informant”…
He wasn’t. End of story. Don’t play their game.
Exactly. The FBI “turns” people who are likely guilty into informants with the promise of leniency if they help to get dirt on “bigger fish”. They don’t just go up to a random business man in good standing and ask them to befriend the target of a criminal investigation.
So if Trump admits to this then it implies the FBI was investigating him for similar crimes and decided to use him to further incriminate Epstein.
Ah, but this is a thing that crappy police procedurals MAKE YOU THINK happens. You go to someone they “might” recruit, or whoever’s next on THE LIST of people to recruit, and flip them BEFORE because OF COURSE these people will happily help with an investigation at the cost of their business, their credibility, maybe even their life.
Don’t you become an informant when they catch you and offer you the deal; You get to walk free for the crime you committed, but have to risk your life spying on your fellow criminals for the fuzz?
And aren’t criminal informants generally used for the same types of crimes they were arrested for?
He was VERY inside the organization! You could say balls deep into all the little details!
